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186. Yes, he did -- the father killed his son

Wed Aug 16, 2023, 10:17 AM

Aug 2023

The driver did not cause the death, the father did.

Then he murdered the driver of the truck, stole the truck and left his dead son in the road. Yeah, he really fucking loved his teenage son, didn't he? Drags him down the middle of a country road at lowlight and gets him killed, then leaves his so-called beloved son like a piece of trash in the road while he steals a truck. What a stand up guy!

It wasn't a fucking hit and run. The driver immediately pulled over and called 911. And guess what, there had already been people calling in about a family walking down the middle of a fucking two-lane country road in the Piedmont and how they were a danger.

I lived in Durham. I have driven this road, and it is rolling and curvy with few clear site lines, and it is 55 mph. The father was a fucking idiot and killed his son. Then committed murder and grand theft and left the scene of a crime, and left his dead kid like trash.

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Dad shoots, kills Dept. of Corrections truck driver who fatally struck son, police say [View all] BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 OP

Horrible tragedy.... TheRealNorth Aug 2023 #1

tragedy with only one accident. One death was intentional. ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #90

Too many people think that guns are the be all, end all solutions to problems. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #2

I hope so dflprincess Aug 2023 #4

I agree, he acted out of impulse instead of logic. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #8

Yes, I agree. shrike3 Aug 2023 #18

I'd disagree... this type would have grabbed a tire iron. WarGamer Aug 2023 #22

Quite possibly true, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #24

Moreover... just incredibly sad. WarGamer Aug 2023 #29

100+. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #39

He would have had a total chance of defending himself Polybius Aug 2023 #175

then driver and father would have been more evenly matched to fight it out BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #33

The father, in a black-out state of rage and adrenaline... WarGamer Aug 2023 #37

Do tire iron deaths in other countries equal... W_HAMILTON Aug 2023 #41

Then the dad would have died Polybius Aug 2023 #172

'Impulse' rationale is lost when he took the truck and went home instead of waiting for the police. keithbvadu2 Aug 2023 #45

100+. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #46

I don't know ForgedCrank Aug 2023 #153

It was 630 am and they were walking in the middle of a country road obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #176

Show me ForgedCrank Aug 2023 #183

A crafty lawyer could frame the shooting as self-defense. A jury could believe it. LonePirate Aug 2023 #9

...except driver had already called 911, then shot BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #11

A crafty lawyer... stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #26

For sure! Lol, I'd never heard of Spielberg and was flabbergasted Hortensis Aug 2023 #124

Nah. The father was IMO negligent in not making sure his... brush Aug 2023 #28

In Illinois the pedestrian always has the right of way questionseverything Aug 2023 #44

Of course pedestrians do, but if you want to live ecstatic Aug 2023 #56

Literally everyone is blaming the father for the driver negligently running over a child questionseverything Aug 2023 #60

So the father was justified in shooting and killing the driver? MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #66

I didn't say anything about the shooting but questionseverything Aug 2023 #68

So,like I said, you've already determined that the driver was at fault MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #70

Well I'm pretty sure the white corrections officer questionseverything Aug 2023 #72

Oh, so now the racist card is thrown. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #73

Would it be the first time white cops cover for each other? questionseverything Aug 2023 #75

And you know this is the case......................How? MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #76

I'm saying I probably won't trust this investigation questionseverything Aug 2023 #79

.... MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #80

This thread. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #206

You and some others seem to have jumped to the conclusion Bettie Aug 2023 #106

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #108

He was at fault for running out of gas. If he had been as concerned about gas ecstatic Aug 2023 #71

I read the article the kid was a teenager not a 3 year old questionseverything Aug 2023 #74

I think you're missing my point ecstatic Aug 2023 #77

I'm not saying the father used perfect judgment but questionseverything Aug 2023 #78

And suppose the driver was coming over a hill and had no time to react? MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #82

The road has limited sight lines in spots Red Mountain Aug 2023 #115

We have hills and curves in Illinois too questionseverything Aug 2023 #125

I'll drive the stretch of road tomorrow and let you know Red Mountain Aug 2023 #136

I personally have never hit a deer, I don't know anyone that has but I'm sure it happens questionseverything Aug 2023 #141

What part of Illinois do you live in? Red Mountain Aug 2023 #159

Other posters from the area said that would be a busy questionseverything Aug 2023 #160

Correct. Not true. It's not a busy road. Red Mountain Aug 2023 #161

I just don't get how the driver didn't see three people in the middle of the road questionseverything Aug 2023 #166

I'd guess tired or distracted Red Mountain Aug 2023 #174

I would agree but both of those reasons make it the driver's responsibility questionseverything Aug 2023 #194

I had two encounters. usonian Aug 2023 #163

Paved road surfaces are like ice for their hooves Red Mountain Aug 2023 #173

When I visited family in rural New Jersey ecstatic Aug 2023 #180

I've had a deer run into ME. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #181

That's what happened to me. usonian Aug 2023 #182

That sounds almost identical to what happened to a friend of mine! BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #187

So you don't think the father should've looked out for the... brush Aug 2023 #86

How does the cop/ driver not see three people in the middle of the road? questionseverything Aug 2023 #92

What were the road conditions? Was it at night, around a curve? brush Aug 2023 #99

I missed hitting a cow on I-25 in southern New Mexico, just barely-- Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #127

It wasn't dark or rainy though, it was dawn and clear questionseverything Aug 2023 #128

This poor guy is dead. Maybe we'll never know how much he was responsible for Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #130

Accidents are one person's negligence meeting its natural consequence questionseverything Aug 2023 #132

No, that's not true, we all have merely human capabilities and senses and brains. Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #133

If you couldn't see it you were going too fast for conditions questionseverything Aug 2023 #145

Yes, I was going too fast to see the shine of cow eyeballs in my Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #150

Maybe reading his cell phone questionseverything Aug 2023 #140

Yes, comparative negligence can exist treestar Aug 2023 #146

That just isn't true. Ace Rothstein Aug 2023 #134

I may be saying it wrong but I'm sure you don't get to run over a questionseverything Aug 2023 #144

you don't, but it does not mean treestar Aug 2023 #148

Unless you're being negligent, you're probably not going to be charged. Ace Rothstein Aug 2023 #154

so in violation of a statute treestar Aug 2023 #147

Yeah, I don't think you can go run someone over on purpose and get away with it. Ace Rothstein Aug 2023 #155

He could have been in violation of a statute too treestar Aug 2023 #190

They were in the middle of the road obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #178

I don't know. That's the worst thing a parent could ever go through. jimfields33 Aug 2023 #15

True... and why it's a bad idea to carry a gun around. Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #31

Father should've made sure all walking on the side of the road... brush Aug 2023 #19

I agree, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #23

"it's not like the correctional officer purposely veered off the road to hit this kid" MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #107

It is not that simple either. treestar Aug 2023 #149

Maybe the father thought the driver did it deliberately questionseverything Aug 2023 #167

Why would people care about others taking a dangerous action? Ace Rothstein Aug 2023 #168

Again.... So why couldn't the driver see them and avoid running over the teen and killing him? questionseverything Aug 2023 #197

over time it could have gotten darker treestar Aug 2023 #189

It was daybreak, getting lighter questionseverything Aug 2023 #193

I'd Leave The Man Go The Magistrate Aug 2023 #3

then we all get away with gunning down motorists after accidents? BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #7

I Repeat, I Would Leave The Man Go The Magistrate Aug 2023 #13

They were walking down the middle of the road. Kaleva Aug 2023 #17

So What? The Magistrate Aug 2023 #21

Vigilante justice is ancient too Kaleva Aug 2023 #27

you don't get to do that in our society Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #32

Jesus, I am a self defense guy, but this kind of thinking is dangerous. bottomofthehill Aug 2023 #35

Does the truck driver's family get to kill someone now? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2023 #48

Lol! BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #51

No MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #109

gallows humour Celerity Aug 2023 #139

Then we'd be talking about... stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #25

Disagree. It is not just about the father. What about the suffering of the Driver's family? yowzayowzayowza Aug 2023 #34

So... you'd kill someone over an accident? Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #36

The negligence was hitting and killing a pedestrian questionseverything Aug 2023 #57

So you're basically exonerating the father for shooting and killing the driver? MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #58

That's not what I said at all but the driver hit and killed a human being questionseverything Aug 2023 #63

You have jumped to the conclusion that the driver was negligent, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #65

You have jumped to the conclusion MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #111

A pass? He's dead. BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #118

I'm not addressing anything that happened after the child was hit and killed questionseverything Aug 2023 #120

Well you won't have to worry about him doing that again. BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #121

nobody is OK with that treestar Aug 2023 #151

He is in the cop crew and he is white questionseverything Aug 2023 #152

Their crime is one of them murdered someone likely due to their negligence. Ace Rothstein Aug 2023 #157

I have never given the father a pass questionseverything Aug 2023 #158

accidents are not "murder" treestar Aug 2023 #165

didn't know the races treestar Aug 2023 #164

If you didn't know the races then you didn't watch the news reports questionseverything Aug 2023 #195

The facts of what happened treestar Aug 2023 #205

I did not know anything until this about who treestar Aug 2023 #191

+1 Celerity Aug 2023 #138

So if a pedestrian is hit, it's always the driver's fault? Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #59

The pedestrian always has the right of way questionseverything Aug 2023 #62

There are PLENTY of cases... Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #64

All the driver had to do was slow down or stop questionseverything Aug 2023 #67

OFFS.... Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #69

this happened to me tonight orleans Aug 2023 #88

Are you saying the three people walking ran in front of the questionseverything Aug 2023 #93

no, i'm not saying the kid ran in front of the truck. i heard they were walking down the middle of orleans Aug 2023 #110

Wow. The interesting thing is you saw him before you knew it ecstatic Aug 2023 #95

Driver is dead, because he stopped. haele Aug 2023 #198

It was not a three year old, it was a teen questionseverything Aug 2023 #199

I've heard both? Still, a blind curve or hill, at highway speeds, it's difficult to see. haele Aug 2023 #201

In the op there is a video from abc news questionseverything Aug 2023 #202

Pedestrians in the middle of the road? Could've been at nignt... brush Aug 2023 #102

And then stolen the dead man's truck? BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #53

That's A Bit Much The Magistrate Aug 2023 #55

All good to shoot a man who hit someone walking in the road in low light, huh? BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #97

I sympathize with a grieving parent, Sir. yardwork Aug 2023 #101

Murder ok but you draw the line at grand theft auto. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2023 #196

Not one of your better takes. BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #117

He stole the truck snd left his kid in the road obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #143

lock him up... throw away the key. And add Grand Theft Auto charges to the rest of the family. WarGamer Aug 2023 #5

Wow AKwannabe Aug 2023 #6

Yeah Solomon Aug 2023 #12

Really uncharacteristic and strange. Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #43

Yeah, I was wondering that myself, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #49

Definitely not the regular Magistrate. Where's all the Sir/Madam MerryBlooms Aug 2023 #81

I agree senseandsensibility Aug 2023 #83

Well, he's doubled down on it elsewhere in this thread. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #98

Agreed. Doesn't seem like the familiar, always sensible poster we know. brush Aug 2023 #103

So he's not "sensible," MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #113

Since he's advocating for a killer and truck thief to not... brush Aug 2023 #123

you are very new here, so you likely do not understand that The Magistrate almost ALWAYS uses sir Celerity Aug 2023 #185

+10000000000000000 Celerity Aug 2023 #184

Not really obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #169

he lost his own son a while back Kali Aug 2023 #85

Didn't know that. Even so, its still surprising. Solomon Aug 2023 #94

The truck driver did what we're told to do in an accident: call 911. The father was sinkingfeeling Aug 2023 #10

They were walking down the middle of a 2 lane road? The yellow line? There were cut grass shoulders. TheBlackAdder Aug 2023 #14

That happens a lot where I live. shrike3 Aug 2023 #20

Stroads Act_of_Reparation Aug 2023 #84

While I have a CPL, I don't carry a loaded gun in public Kaleva Aug 2023 #16

Very wise decision on your part, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #42

The odds of something bad happening if I were to carry .. . Kaleva Aug 2023 #47

Person County is not an unpopulated rural area. It's just north of Durham ms liberty Aug 2023 #30

A true tragedy. bluedigger Aug 2023 #38

I agree Deuxcents Aug 2023 #40

It will really get interesting when they attempt "stand your ground" on cops! LeftInTX Aug 2023 #50

Jesus. This thread leftstreet Aug 2023 #52

Agree. I brought it on myself, though, opening to find out how Hortensis Aug 2023 #122

He should have shot himself too. Ran out of gas? ecstatic Aug 2023 #54

John Gotti had the man who fatally struck his son killed. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2023 #61

The father killed his son JI7 Aug 2023 #87

murdering scum with a gun. ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #89

Running out of gas happens when you are poor also. Bluesaph Aug 2023 #91

A little more info.. Captain Stern Aug 2023 #96

Thanks for posting that. yardwork Aug 2023 #100

Hmmm... very weird. Yep, this wasn't an emotional/grief killing. Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #104

I think it was an emotional killing, but I think there's more going on, too. yardwork Aug 2023 #105

What makes you say that? SYFROYH Aug 2023 #114

They don't usually involve 911 calls beforehand for a family seemingly trying to get hit Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #126

If I watched someone kill my son I might get weird, too. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #129

You wouldn't just be in terrible shock that an accident just happened? Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #131

When a truck runs over a child, there might not be any doubt. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #135

I would never leave my dead child on the side of the road Snooper9 Aug 2023 #162

All of you saying that make it seems like it was murder obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #170

If what I said makes you think it sounded like murder -- thats about you. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #179

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #119

That's insane. They left their child at the scene?! ecstatic Aug 2023 #137

that is strange BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #156

I don't know if I could control myself (gun or no gun) if I watched someone kill my son. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #112

The father killed his son obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #171

Not according to the facts as reported. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #177

Yes, he did -- the father killed his son obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #186

Where I come from drivers are responsible for not hitting pedestrians in the road. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #188

I just looked up "Dink Ashley Rd near Timberlake NC" on google maps. yardwork Aug 2023 #192

What does that have to do with anything? obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #203

Dad is going to prison, as he should BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #116

This was not a hit and run obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #142

The unfortunate result of this is that people will hit and run for fear of losing their lives. Baitball Blogger Aug 2023 #200

This nt XanaDUer2 Aug 2023 #204

This is why some people leave the scene of an accident Polybius Aug 2023 #207