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scipan

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17. Okay thanks. But wouldn't any city have civilians on their side?

Reply to Model35mech (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 19, 2023, 09:11 PM

Aug 2023

You don't actually have to answer. Guess it would depend on whether they've been mostly killed.

ETA: and how many Russians are hidden there.

It seems like it might not be that bad in my uninformed opinion.

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CBS News is reporting that Ukraine forces have broken through and are approaching Tokmak [View all] Tomconroy Aug 2023 OP

Ukraine!.................... Lovie777 Aug 2023 #1

There's doubt as to what effective forces the Russians have beyond those first lines of minefields Emrys Aug 2023 #2

+1 Kaleva Aug 2023 #3

I think the statements were deliberate COL Mustard Aug 2023 #5

Very conceivable. Emrys Aug 2023 #10

Institute for the Study of War gave a serious slapdown to the reported assessments of gloom and doom Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #6

Fog 'o war Cheezoholic Aug 2023 #8

Yes, you didn't have to be associated with the ISW to be able to poke holes in those analyses. Emrys Aug 2023 #11

Couldn't have said it better myself. Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #13

Nothing is stalled about it Warpy Aug 2023 #9

Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update. niyad Aug 2023 #4

Good. Hard to tell, but it looks like they are getting fairly scipan Aug 2023 #7

From the spring counteroffensive starting point Tokmak is about 1/2 way Model35mech Aug 2023 #12

Thanks. As much as 5 mines per square meter!!! scipan Aug 2023 #14

If they are near the edge of Tokmak they are mostly thru 3 lines of defense Model35mech Aug 2023 #16

Okay thanks. But wouldn't any city have civilians on their side? scipan Aug 2023 #17

From Kyiv Post WarGamer Aug 2023 #18

Do you remember scipan Aug 2023 #20

Hummmmm . . . peggysue2 Aug 2023 #15

THANKS for the update sounds good. 👍 nt Raine Aug 2023 #19