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Old Crank

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30. I don't think that our ships are all that much safer.

Sun Aug 27, 2023, 02:47 PM

Aug 2023

I read a while ago that a Chinese diesel sub surfaced in open sea inside the defenses of a carrier group. Now the group wasn't on war footing so that is something.
Another tidbit is the range of planes from a carrier group v the newer missile attack/defense systems. It looks like planes will need to refuel or carry extra fuel. Which means large radar signature and or less destructive payloads.

It isn't going to be easy pickings.

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Ukraine unveils suicide submarine to take out Russia's warships [View all] Beastly Boy Aug 2023 OP

What does this say about the future of the US Navy? essaynnc Aug 2023 #1

Still need ships to project power. NutmegYankee Aug 2023 #6

Talk to a Submariner at the New London CT base edhopper Aug 2023 #10

I talk with them every day... NutmegYankee Aug 2023 #12

I see by your screen name edhopper Aug 2023 #13

It's not stuff that should be on a internet site. NutmegYankee Aug 2023 #14

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. paleotn Aug 2023 #20

We will shortly again. NutmegYankee Aug 2023 #27

Tang's length will be 460 feet, beam is about 35 feet. LastDemocratInSC Aug 2023 #33

Definitely a whale, not a fish . . . hatrack Aug 2023 #37

Bring back the glory of the past with those names. Chainfire Aug 2023 #45

When I was up at the Natilus Musem edhopper Aug 2023 #38

That isn't sensitive. NutmegYankee Aug 2023 #40

I didn't think edhopper Aug 2023 #41

Wouldn't the underwater communication be difficult? Buckeyeblue Aug 2023 #42

I am sure they have worked on that edhopper Aug 2023 #43

Did you ever hear the sound of 500 admirals crying? It's so sad. Ask Billy Mitchell Wonder Why Aug 2023 #24

The huge investment in Ukraine's marine drones since the start of the war has made it BunnyMcGee Aug 2023 #2

Given US support to Ukraine and Zelesky, OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2023 #11

. dalton99a Aug 2023 #3

In an unmanned drone, who is committing suicide? Sneederbunk Aug 2023 #4

The drone. ananda Aug 2023 #7

Ai are people too.... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #8

And if you don't, we know how to find you. erronis Aug 2023 #16

You might have added Bomb number 20... LunaSea Aug 2023 #31

"The Lost Worlds of 2001" LastDemocratInSC Aug 2023 #34

That's is what I thought edhopper Aug 2023 #9

The drone pilot at her computer terminal, of course. But then she gets better. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2023 #39

Kamikaze pilots are rolling over in their graves. Sneederbunk Aug 2023 #44

As someone said years ago..... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #5

First of all, submarines are boats, not ships. Secondly, aircraft carrier battle groups have Martin68 Aug 2023 #22

True, but any surface fleet is vulnerable.... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #28

My point is only that being vulnerable to attack is the price we have to pay for having an effective Martin68 Aug 2023 #36

what I want to know is why is this being made public? yellowdogintexas Aug 2023 #15

As I'm sure you've seen, there are public facts, perhaps sensitive material, and propoganda. erronis Aug 2023 #17

There is no danger in announcing their existence minus full capabilities. Fear is a powerful Martin68 Aug 2023 #19

Bingo. Gives Ivan a moment of pause paleotn Aug 2023 #25

Gives an extra insentive for Russian sailors to quit smoking on cruiser-size vessels Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #32

Why did vlad scream about his hypersonic missile? getagrip_already Aug 2023 #29

I'm noticing a phrasing change in news coverage from dobleremolque Aug 2023 #18

Temporarily occupied Crimea please..... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #26

The future of war. republianmushroom Aug 2023 #21

Long range guided torpedo. paleotn Aug 2023 #23

I don't think that our ships are all that much safer. Old Crank Aug 2023 #30

The Telegraph needed a better headline for this Story Best_man23 Aug 2023 #35

All battery powered, that would be one quite sub. The first time you knew it was after you Chainfire Aug 2023 #46