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Hortensis

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41. +100. But we're going to win. I'm convinced the polls

Thu Sep 14, 2023, 08:47 PM

Sep 2023

are better indicators of who not to pay attention to than reality. No one normally gets elections wrong decade after decade, and they have for over over 30 years.

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Are we throwing away Nancy Pelosi now because she wasn't enthusiastic about Kamala? [View all] Pisces Sep 2023 OP

You worry too much. marble falls Sep 2023 #1

why the fuck all the "sky is falling" posts Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #3

That was 4 yrs ago and things have changed. We are taking democracy for granted like its always Pisces Sep 2023 #7

Speak for yourself relayerbob Sep 2023 #21

First of all, explain how the Romans even begin to compare to the USA. marble falls Sep 2023 #27

Really? Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #30

Really. How? marble falls Sep 2023 #31

you know how Romans picked leaders based on military leadership Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #35

Or that the Romans had free and open elections, no wait, that never happened. Or had mass media ... marble falls Sep 2023 #37

thank you. it is fun exchanging views with intelligent people I find here Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #43

I suggest you read THE STORM BEFORE THE STORM by Mike Duncan... brooklynite Sep 2023 #71

Wow. Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #72

Yours are even funnier. marble falls Sep 2023 #73

I haven't made any jokes. Have a lovely day. Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #74

Correction. Your unintentional jokes are funnier. May I ask: exactly what is your beef? marble falls Sep 2023 #75

I have no beef. I expressed surprise that the comparison to the fall of the Roman Republic was Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #76

Mainly because there are precious few direct simularities between the Roman Empire and the US ... marble falls Sep 2023 #77

"Proceed, indeed." Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #78

So you think that the two countries have ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #46

Proceed, indeed! marble falls Sep 2023 #53

An article for you. Again, I am not pulling these things out of thin air. Pisces Sep 2023 #38

Nice. An article that can't be read without a subscription. In your own words ... marble falls Sep 2023 #39

Our political strife, political norms being undermined by an unqualified narcissists while we keep Pisces Sep 2023 #45

You do realize that in no way reflects the reality ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #54

And this majorly describes the Roman Empire in any sort of way that also doesn't describe ... marble falls Sep 2023 #55

I agree it does describe many nations. We have modeled our democracy with the Senate and the House Pisces Sep 2023 #63

we're focused and determined--not scared Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #64

All we have to is get the fucking vote out. The vote: something the Romans never had. But, the ... marble falls Sep 2023 #65

How is Kamala Harris like the Romans? yardwork Sep 2023 #50

they wore togas--she wears dresses Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #61

Ohhh! Now I get it. yardwork Sep 2023 #62

The Romans? LudwigPastorius Sep 2023 #69

Just irritates the hell out of me, it's like telling ghost stories at a sleep over. marble falls Sep 2023 #26

Lol! It really is! yardwork Sep 2023 #51

I guess with Democracy on line we can't afford to be cavalier. The election is something to worry Pisces Sep 2023 #6

I agree. We can't be cavalier or take anything for granted. yardwork Sep 2023 #52

huh.......never had that OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2023 #2

No way 'we' are 'throwing away Nancy Pelosi.' elleng Sep 2023 #4

I agree relayerbob Sep 2023 #19

I agree. LoisB Sep 2023 #25

She was very complimentary of Kamala underpants Sep 2023 #5

She would not give a full throated endorsement. I watched it too. She's a great politician and very Pisces Sep 2023 #9

yes, but some are looking for a very opportunity to sow division in Dems Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #14

Bingo! marble falls Sep 2023 #28

Source? chowder66 Sep 2023 #8

The Guardian and CNN Pisces Sep 2023 #11

You really are missing the point, aren't you? What Speaker Emerita Pelosi said niyad Sep 2023 #24

Yes, I'm the only one who took it that way. I'm not willing to stick my head and sand this go around Pisces Sep 2023 #32

Lol... wtf? demmiblue Sep 2023 #10

I added link to my original post of article Pisces Sep 2023 #12

Those folks don't pay attention to Nancy Pelosi anyway relayerbob Sep 2023 #13

She tanked in the primaries Zeitghost Sep 2023 #17

A- Dems are going to vote Biden-Harris relayerbob Sep 2023 #22

her flaws in order are: Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #20

ANY Democratic VP would be targeted for massive hate campaigns. Hortensis Sep 2023 #23

Exactly, we can not pretend the sentiment isn't out there. It's terrifying to think what Trump would Pisces Sep 2023 #33

+100. But we're going to win. I'm convinced the polls Hortensis Sep 2023 #41

The problem is that she's the Democratic running mate. Hortensis Sep 2023 #57

Why on earth would we ever throw away the Speaker Emerita who helped save the country on 1/6? Hekate Sep 2023 #15

It was sarcasm Pisces Sep 2023 #34

Whoever's dishing out these poison notions, maybe just don't go there. Hortensis Sep 2023 #16

the 'worried about Kamala Harris' thing stopdiggin Sep 2023 #18

Exactly. Kamala Harris stands very well on her own. And so does Nancy Pelosi. marble falls Sep 2023 #29

precisely Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #36

"DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!!!!" (tm) Sorry, not buying such divisive nonsense. emulatorloo Sep 2023 #40

ditto Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #44

Democrats are not in disarray. They are concerned, but will vote for the ticket. It's the 5 to 7% Pisces Sep 2023 #48

Who is this "We" you are referring to? DU? msfiddlestix Sep 2023 #42

We on DU, we the democrats Pisces Sep 2023 #49

Guess I missed all of this.. I have been busy but wow. msfiddlestix Sep 2023 #68

no one is stupid enough to drop the person raising the most money for the ticket right now bigtree Sep 2023 #47

to be clear --here's the ACTUAL Guardian headline and sub head Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #56

Give them hell Nancy! William769 Sep 2023 #58

my favorite SOTU was with Nancy and Kamala on either side Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #59

... William769 Sep 2023 #60

Interesting that I thought this was a place for discussion and ideas. But really its just a place of Pisces Sep 2023 #66

maybe people aren't accustomed to casting aspersions on an incumbent VP bigtree Sep 2023 #67

"We can hold many thoughts at once." Sadly, there's a vocal little squad that can't. Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #70

No one is throwing Pelosi away kwolf68 Sep 2023 #79