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5. Here's some of what he said
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 03:20 PM
Sep 2023
https://consequence.net/2023/09/jann-wenner-black-female-musicians-dont-articulate/

...Wenner explained that the artists selected for the book — most of whom, its worth noting, were his close friends — were “not a deliberate selection,” but instead were “intuitive” choices informed by his “personal interest and love of them.” But he also slightly contradicts himself in the very same interview, stating that these so-called “masters” of rock ‘n’ roll also “had to meet a couple criteria” and measure up to a nebulous “historical standard.”

“Insofar as the women, just none of them were as articulate enough on this intellectual level,” Wenner went on. “Joni [Mitchell] was not a philosopher of rock ’n’ roll. She didn’t, in my mind, meet that test. Not by her work, not by other interviews she did. The people I interviewed were the kind of philosophers of rock… I suppose when you use a word as broad as ‘masters,’ the fault is using that word. Maybe Marvin Gaye, or Curtis Mayfield? I mean, they just didn’t articulate at that level.”

Seemingly attempting to move on to the next topic, Wenner concluded: “Just for public relations sake, maybe I should have gone and found one Black and one woman artist to include here that didn’t measure up to that same historical standard, just to avert this kind of criticism. Which, I get it.”


fuck Jann Wenner

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Jann Wenner? Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #1
Yup... AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #2
Awful! PortTack Sep 2023 #3
And the interviewer gave him plenty of opportunities AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #4
Here's some of what he said blogslug Sep 2023 #5
so he's saying that he doesn't find them articulate? maxsolomon Sep 2023 #7
Articulate, and not profound it sounds like AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #8
tough to interview Marvin, though. maxsolomon Sep 2023 #11
True AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #14
no Jann Wenner interviews of Gaye from the past, I suppose. maxsolomon Sep 2023 #33
Nice Zappa reference! robbob Sep 2023 #23
in interviews, i guess. maxsolomon Sep 2023 #32
Wow. senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #12
He also says he could've included ones just to avoid being called out AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #16
Yeah, again he is totally senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #17
I knew he was a jerk but this is worse than I expected. yardwork Sep 2023 #24
I still wonder what Warren Zevon did to piss Wenner off AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #30
That makes sense. yardwork Sep 2023 #31
I bet he hates those LGBT singers, they suck obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #6
You mean angrychair Sep 2023 #9
He really demonstrated every problem I've had w/ RS in this one interview nt AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #10
What would he say about her I wonder? senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #18
One articulate rocker grokked "minds" like Jan Wenner's. Kid Berwyn Sep 2023 #13
He's very similar to fucking Bob Dylan, whose awful book I started. Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #15
What is this "philosophy of rock," anyway? yardwork Sep 2023 #25
The whole "he's so cryptic and elusive!" fawning over some celebrities AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #29
THIS quote: "I probably went too far. So what? I'm entitled." highplainsdem Sep 2023 #19
I remember sitting in the newsroom laughing at that review AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #20
So he had a crush on Mick and promoted his mediocre album. yardwork Sep 2023 #26
Wenner has always had a groupie quality about his writing AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2023 #28
What a fuckig idiot Ferrets are Cool Sep 2023 #21
This dude seems like a total asshole budkin Sep 2023 #22
I'll save you some time Jann. The philosophy of Rock and Roll according to most of those white guys? bluesbassman Sep 2023 #27
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