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30. Really? I lost count when I tried to count them all

Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:45 AM

Sep 2023

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America passed the EV 'tipping point' -- but many buyers still want gas [View all] Zorro Sep 2023 OP

I don't want an electric vehicle, so elleng Sep 2023 #1

I want a car I can drive... brooklynite Sep 2023 #2

I too want a car I can drive. elleng Sep 2023 #4

NYC has *NO* charging stations? Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #7

Extremely few. brooklynite Sep 2023 #11

Really? I lost count when I tried to count them all FreeState Sep 2023 #30

Most of the ones you're seeing are in private garages where my car isn't parked. brooklynite Sep 2023 #35

None of them are private - they are all public FreeState Sep 2023 #54

Really? Tesla has guidance to charging stations and they are all over. LymphocyteLover Sep 2023 #69

But if your car was totaled or stolen tomorrow, what would you replace it with? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #5

If Stolen Or Totalled RobinA Sep 2023 #24

I guess it depends on where you live and drive. Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #26

Same here. I'm in AZ and we have a great EV infrastructure that FlyingPiggy Sep 2023 #90

My first car lasted 2 years years when it was crushed in a garage collapse. brooklynite Sep 2023 #92

The Leaf is a hatchback isn't it? And Kia has an EV version of the Soul IIRC. Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #96

Your age and availability of new and used gas vehicles will determine that. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #84

Until there's more infrastructure, Elessar Zappa Sep 2023 #3

which means DonCoquixote Sep 2023 #12

They can't. Biden already signed the bill. It will be done. jimfields33 Sep 2023 #53

Once charging infrastructure is in place Bettie Sep 2023 #6

Our primary vehicle is a gas powered heavy duty truck so we can tow our travel trailer. Wingus Dingus Sep 2023 #8

I have a hybrid, as does my husband. phylny Sep 2023 #9

Hybrids NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #52

Hybrids offer little. PHEV's though are a real alternative JCMach1 Sep 2023 #105

I wish I could get an EV, but the apartment complex I live in doesn't have catbyte Sep 2023 #10

NOt practical for us, yet, at least not for both vehicles JT45242 Sep 2023 #13

Not switching over until the charging infrastructure is much improved DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 2023 #14

Some of us have to drive what we can afford. BoomaofBandM Sep 2023 #15

Some don't understand that. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2023 #135

Would love a hybrid but no way we can afford one. yorkster Sep 2023 #16

I hate to say this, but I will never buy a car that has a ten thousand dollar battery. onecaliberal Sep 2023 #17

Same here. Mosby Sep 2023 #39

The average household spends over $5K/year on gasoline tinrobot Sep 2023 #41

$10k batteries were a few years ago madville Sep 2023 #47

Price doesn't really matter. Modern batteries will last the lifetime of the vehicle. tinrobot Sep 2023 #77

What would make replacement costs lower? madville Sep 2023 #88

I spend about $60. a month on gas. I live close to work. Not even close to 2% of my salary. onecaliberal Sep 2023 #74

You don't need to spend anywhere near $60K. tinrobot Sep 2023 #75

Not buying a used one; and I'm not opposed, but I will be waiting for now. onecaliberal Sep 2023 #99

Interesting. I wonder how much recharging an EV costs Bucky Sep 2023 #103

I charge my PHEV in my carport. The charger is in the garage. We have not noticed any higher elec. Liberal In Texas Sep 2023 #110

That $5,000 figure is misleading without the context. sl8 Sep 2023 #117

That $5,000 /year figure is very misleading. sl8 Sep 2023 #119

My next new vehicle will be an EV. Get use to it, Emile Sep 2023 #18

Is there something unique about Norway? I skimmed the article and it doesn't look like... keep_left Sep 2023 #19

I Was In Norway RobinA Sep 2023 #28

I Don't Get The Resistance To Plug-In Hybrids ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #20

I think they represent a bit of an "odd" middle ground. Caliman73 Sep 2023 #22

From My Standpoint RobinA Sep 2023 #29

I've got a PHEV and I just plug in at home . . . . hatrack Sep 2023 #36

That's not right... WarGamer Sep 2023 #78

When I purchased my new car four years I went with a gas vehicle. Xavier Breath Sep 2023 #37

It Would Suit Me Too ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #61

+1, PIH means oil independence now uponit7771 Sep 2023 #58

Five percent? California is close to 20 percent of new cars as EVs. tinrobot Sep 2023 #21

65% of electricity is produced using natural gas or coal. Mosby Sep 2023 #38

Which means an EV uses, at minimum, 45% less fossil fuels. tinrobot Sep 2023 #40

And many forget another big advantage to EVs. They don't get hot. Liberal In Texas Sep 2023 #79

Reading some of the comments.. albacore Sep 2023 #23

+1 2naSalit Sep 2023 #32

People adjust to the price of gas. The problem with EV's is how the electric is made. jimfields33 Sep 2023 #33

You can make solar electricity on your roof, if needed. tinrobot Sep 2023 #42

If one can afford a solar system madville Sep 2023 #45

Maybe. Panels for just a car would be less, but there are many routes to cleaner power. tinrobot Sep 2023 #46

Huh inthewind21 Sep 2023 #122

Prices have increased in the last 10 years madville Sep 2023 #128

Our economy doesn't adjust to a greater and greater expense on energy.. albacore Sep 2023 #44

We can if we choose to. Happy Hoosier Sep 2023 #116

I would love to replace my 18 mpg gas guzzler with an ev Trailrider1951 Sep 2023 #25

Towing requires gas. Just a fact. The weight of the required lindysalsagal Sep 2023 #27

How many people actually tow regularly? tinrobot Sep 2023 #43

Agreed. lindysalsagal Sep 2023 #73

Does it? Happy Hoosier Sep 2023 #118

Maybe when the replacement battery is free...lol. Iggo Sep 2023 #31

That's what they said about the Prius. No battery problems. albacore Sep 2023 #49

Same to you, buddy. Iggo Sep 2023 #57

Of course there were few problems, the batteries just didn't last and cost a lot to replace uponit7771 Sep 2023 #59

Life of a Prius battery is about 10 years....but... albacore Sep 2023 #63

Former 2001 Prius owner - mine lasted 13 years vs. estimated lifespan of 10 years . . . hatrack Sep 2023 #124

I think a cubic regression curve Mosby Sep 2023 #34

there are very cheap used EVs LymphocyteLover Sep 2023 #67

I want simple, dammit. I want a dashboard that looks like what I'm used to. Non-flammable battery! Hekate Sep 2023 #48

Gasoline isn't flammable? tinrobot Sep 2023 #50

Gas cars don't burn? News to me... albacore Sep 2023 #51

Hybrid cars are the worst Kaleva Sep 2023 #62

Your response would be much more convincing if it weren't an ad... albacore Sep 2023 #66

It's far more accurate to go per 100k sold Kaleva Sep 2023 #72

That's mostly Teslas because of their bad build quality. BannonsLiver Sep 2023 #98

Thank you for getting the point (I think) instead of perseverating on the flammability of gasoline Hekate Sep 2023 #100

Maybe one day. Dulcinea Sep 2023 #55

LOTS of petro-misinformation on this thread... albacore Sep 2023 #56

How many of us pay that much in taxes to be able to get the rebate? Kaleva Sep 2023 #65

My state rebate is $2K.. straight rebate, not tax credit. nt albacore Sep 2023 #70

What state is that? Kaleva Sep 2023 #126

Washington. They also waive the 6.5% sales tax for EVs. nt albacore Sep 2023 #129

That's great! Wish more states would do that. Kaleva Sep 2023 #130

Can't beat living in a blue state. nt albacore Sep 2023 #132

And the electric company will install the level 2 charger free. NT albacore Sep 2023 #134

Typically, people who have low incomes don't buy new cars. tinrobot Sep 2023 #76

That'll be my situation Kaleva Sep 2023 #127

I live in Texas. I got a rebate for my PHEV - from TEXAS. Liberal In Texas Sep 2023 #71

No interest in EV myself SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2023 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Sep 2023 #81

Gas in Southern California is $6.40 cents a gallon right now. Fuuuuuuuuck that shit. Initech Sep 2023 #64

I drive an EV and I love not having to buy gas. I charge it in my garage. LymphocyteLover Sep 2023 #68

Change is gonna come, get use to it Emile Sep 2023 #80

All ICE vehicles in the United States should be Flex Fuel like in Brazil. roamer65 Sep 2023 #82

What probably needs to happen is provide something similar to mpg LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #83

I posted earlier that a 2024 Chevy Equinox EV would cost me less than $5 to charge. albacore Sep 2023 #85

That is the info that needs to get out. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #86

I recently just got Chi67 Sep 2023 #87

The other geeks I know haven't transitioned yet ecstatic Sep 2023 #89

EVs have as part of the NAV system a button you can push and a map Liberal In Texas Sep 2023 #93

What happens if I let the car sit for 2 weeks --- does the battery stay charged ecstatic Sep 2023 #94

It'll stay charged. Liberal In Texas Sep 2023 #95

I admit, what you said about being able to leave the house with a full tank ecstatic Sep 2023 #97

Once you drive one for awhile you'll wonder why it took you so long. Liberal In Texas Sep 2023 #108

People resist change. It's our nature. But I think it will be inevitable that EV's will dominate FlyingPiggy Sep 2023 #91

If I could drive, I'd go for electric, but... sakabatou Sep 2023 #101

The car manufacturers' and oil companies' astroturfing has been effective. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #102

Butttt the battery..! Meanwhile I don't change oil, have almost 0 maintenance JCMach1 Sep 2023 #112

Crazy EV owners can even refine their own fuel! It's just nuts, I tell ya. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #120

The progress has been incredible Johnny2X2X Sep 2023 #104

Exactly, DUers literally spouting big oil talking points... JCMach1 Sep 2023 #106

Owner satisfaction Johnny2X2X Sep 2023 #109

I have a PHEV Volt and rarely go to the ICE engine JCMach1 Sep 2023 #111

Neighbor says the same thing of his Volt Johnny2X2X Sep 2023 #113

I could mention, we have also had a couple of gasoline runs in DFW since JCMach1 Sep 2023 #114

For those cost poopooers, I paid 8K for my Volt in 2016 JCMach1 Sep 2023 #115

EV Owners RobinA Sep 2023 #123

And no one is forcing you to buy and EV Johnny2X2X Sep 2023 #125

Whistling past the graveyard MusicLikeDirt Sep 2023 #107

Another factor may be Bettie Sep 2023 #121

Something nobody seems to consider: where does the electricity come from? brooklynite Sep 2023 #131

I'm not sure either. But I know that the auto companies... albacore Sep 2023 #133