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DestinyIsles

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97. It has nothing to do with not accepting an opinion

Mon Sep 25, 2023, 06:05 AM

Sep 2023

Three things I noticed the symptoms of troll posts

1. The poster mentioned Gavin Newsome and Gretchen Whitmer as replacements even though it’s been recorded in the press they stated are fully behind Biden for 2024. A lot of right wingers have been pushing these two candidates online and politicians to try to cause divisions in the Democratic primary.

2. The Poster been here since 2006, 3 Presidents’ since then and he doesn’t know incumbent Presidents don’t usually get primared by a serious challenger? I found that hard to believe.

3. The OP has created this topic and left, didn’t even respond to DUers posts. Trolls love to create division and watch the drama unfold in the background.

Yes but it’s me being toxic and not the OP

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Why is it so terrible for us to have a CHOICE in the Democratic primary? [View all] Alhena Sep 2023 OP

This will not end well n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2023 #1

Nor should it. n/t hlthe2b Sep 2023 #3

Just got home from Costco Sympthsical Sep 2023 #29

Finished my popcorn an hour ago mcar Sep 2023 #34

Now is probably better Sympthsical Sep 2023 #35

Great movie. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #62

Because LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #2

Only because the perception now is that it would be disloyal to do so Alhena Sep 2023 #5

I submit that your argument is so faulty that it shows wnylib Sep 2023 #18

Gov Newsom already said he Wasn't running and Cha Sep 2023 #56

All that happens when we primary an incumbent is we weaken him for the general. pnwmom Sep 2023 #73

TRUMP LOST IN 2020 BY MANY MILLIONS OF VOTES Hekate Sep 2023 #82

He actually lost by about 45k votes MistakenLamb Sep 2023 #100

Wikipedia is where I got the popular vote tally, as I intended. By all means work on the Hekate Sep 2023 #114

Nothing to do with disloyalty to one personality, anointed, crowned, cheerleading, echo chamber, betsuni Sep 2023 #86

Did you support Bernie Sanders almost primary challenge to Obama in 2012 MistakenLamb Sep 2023 #99

Primarying a sitting president would help lead the way to Trump 2 shrike3 Sep 2023 #109

Except RFK Jr. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #40

Jr is a fool LiberaBlueDem Sep 2023 #42

Of course he is. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #44

He is not a Democrat and is considering running as a libertarian which would likely hurt Trump. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #132

Wikipedia says he is running for the Democratic nomination. Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #135

Because the people most likely to challenge Biden RandySF Sep 2023 #4

There is nothing at all wrong with a primary challenge from a serious candidate. Chainfire Sep 2023 #6

"There is nothing at all wrong with a primary challenge from a serious candidate", IF DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #25

I don't think Ford in '76 or Carter in '80 win either way, primary or not Polybius Sep 2023 #66

The primary challengers definitely didn't help, either ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #71

Ford lost the Electoral College by 18,000 votes in Ohio and Hawaii. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2023 #75

Name a single time in history that it's gone well. One. Maru Kitteh Sep 2023 #69

This is false on its face uponit7771 Sep 2023 #102

Our democracy is on the line this election. We need unity. Normally I would Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #7

Electability and unity. wnylib Sep 2023 #8

Wonder if she really wants RFK Jr or Cornel West? Or maybe Jill Stein? Hekate Sep 2023 #84

I think that there is something else going on wnylib Sep 2023 #93

I think you make very good points Hekate Sep 2023 #94

Bingo. shrike3 Sep 2023 #120

You are bang on JustAnotherGen Sep 2023 #124

excellent thoughts Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #127

Who's running? (nt) stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #9

Not Gavin Newsom, not Gretchen Whitmer, not Bernie Sanders. .... Hekate Sep 2023 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #88

I'm pretty sure West isn't. stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #89

West is running for the Green Party nomination. nt. carpetbagger Sep 2023 #91

Neither the Greens nor the Libertarians.. stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #92

Because Joe bluestarone Sep 2023 #10

Carter/Kennedy T_A Sep 2023 #11

Thanks elleng Sep 2023 #24

It's not that it's a terrible idea, it's that right now, its a terribly stupid idea. msfiddlestix Sep 2023 #12

There are no "ordinary" times in some circles. JanMichael Sep 2023 #27

Some country has started a "Biden is too old" MIC and its reached here. uponit7771 Sep 2023 #103

1980, but if someone wants to run they can do so JI7 Sep 2023 #13

Gavin Newsom and Gretchen "Witmer" aren't running. W_HAMILTON Sep 2023 #14

Its NOT terrible in the abstract; it IS terrible in the real world. brooklynite Sep 2023 #15

Here's why. Happy Hoosier Sep 2023 #16

I will tell you why because in the past every Tree Lady Sep 2023 #17

We shouldn't feed trolls here DestinyIsles Sep 2023 #19

We seem to be having an outburst of it this afternoon. marybourg Sep 2023 #20

Are you calling the OP a troll? They have been a DU member since 2006 and have kelly1mm Sep 2023 #26

Right and this person popping this topic three months before the Iowa Caucus DestinyIsles Sep 2023 #41

Just because you disagree with another long term, active DU member DOES NOT make them kelly1mm Sep 2023 #52

It has nothing to do with not accepting an opinion DestinyIsles Sep 2023 #97

Yes it is you being toxic ..... nt kelly1mm Sep 2023 #106

It Definitely Can Be RobinA Sep 2023 #115

Have you seen... Hekate Sep 2023 #87

I can't help being envious. Hundreds of replies! I gave up OPs long ago. betsuni Sep 2023 #90

Again, you not agreeing with a post DOES NOT make someone a troll nt kelly1mm Sep 2023 #107

So anyone with a different opinion than yours is a troll? I thought this was a place Chainfire Sep 2023 #38

I would say 'Are you new here?' but I can see you are not. LOL. DU is often toxic to stepping kelly1mm Sep 2023 #53

Maybe run spell check before copy-paste? nt Phoenix61 Sep 2023 #63

Sorry I am confused? What copy and paste and what word is spelled wrong? I am a terrible kelly1mm Sep 2023 #65

A "Troll" is a creature in fiction. "Trolling", on the other hand, is a verb. Bongo Prophet Sep 2023 #79

So we see Democrats snowybirdie Sep 2023 #21

I sgree wi those who have hinted, or outright stated, that the... TreasonousBastard Sep 2023 #22

Democrats should be discussing these types of issues. It is healthy for the party and the nation. Chainfire Sep 2023 #111

What will the challenger to Biden have to say against him marybourg Sep 2023 #23

Once upon a time choices were between differing ideologys randr Sep 2023 #28

Hmmm Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #129

Because primary-ing an incumbent weakens them budkin Sep 2023 #30

I said my fears about 2024.. DemocratInPa Sep 2023 #31

Don't you dare blame Gen Z for 2024 MistakenLamb Sep 2023 #112

All of the other high-profile candidates support Biden. tinrobot Sep 2023 #32

Name one time that an incumbent president was primaried from his own party mcar Sep 2023 #33

Thank you! mountain grammy Sep 2023 #54

Because contested primaries ALWAYS benefit the other side. 11 Bravo Sep 2023 #36

Challenging a sitting president means saying they're doing things wrong muriel_volestrangler Sep 2023 #37

At least Reagan and Kennedy had rationales for their campaigns. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2023 #77

Both Newsome & Whitmer have said they're not running & are Pathwalker Sep 2023 #39

bingo BootinUp Sep 2023 #46

I'm all in for Whitmer... Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #43

So your CHOICE... jcgoldie Sep 2023 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Pathwalker Sep 2023 #47

... lapucelle Sep 2023 #48

Unless Biden decides not to run, don't think a primary will help us. Silent Type Sep 2023 #49

We always have a choice. Iggo Sep 2023 #50

Study the 1980 election PJMcK Sep 2023 #51

I remember that election very well LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #58

I think Carter loses anyway Polybius Sep 2023 #67

Carter barely lost...the primary weakened him and our lives were destroyed and we are still Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #133

Barely lost my butt Polybius Sep 2023 #134

We have lots of choices mountain grammy Sep 2023 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Sep 2023 #57

Only if Joe decides to drop out. honest.abe Sep 2023 #59

The reason is due to experience and lessons learned ecstatic Sep 2023 #60

Because rooting for someone other the incumbent is wrong and not smart Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #61

It's not a terrible thing. But obviously the people Tomconroy Sep 2023 #64

we don't have a choice until someone else decides to run treestar Sep 2023 #68

Because incumbents are tough to beat ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #70

Stronger candidate in what way? betsuni Sep 2023 #72

And why shouldn't we just be able to choose not to wear a mask Aristus Sep 2023 #74

+1 betsuni Sep 2023 #78

I am all in for Biden, but that analogy is pretty dopey. Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #104

It's not the denial. It's them framing the issue of vaccine denial Aristus Sep 2023 #110

And it is dopey to compare that to a normal democratic process. Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #118

It's dopey to encourage a primary challenge when the Republican nominee is the Aristus Sep 2023 #119

They're not running, so it doesn't matter what you'd rather have. pnwmom Sep 2023 #76

Divide and Conquer Hekate Sep 2023 #80

Remind me how many more votes Biden got in 2020 than The Orange Defendent? Hekate Sep 2023 #81

I'm with Joe. carpetbagger Sep 2023 #83

Me me me me CHOICE ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS BAD same as Republicans who cares betsuni Sep 2023 #95

Nailed it. Oopsie Daisy Sep 2023 #122

Most people talk about how old Biden is Dirty Socialist Sep 2023 #96

Name one time. One time that a primary challenge to the incumbent president ever worked out MistakenLamb Sep 2023 #98

You do and will have a choice, write their names in. William769 Sep 2023 #101

Wow. I'm totally against primarying Biden. But many Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #105

it's called "experience" Conjuay Sep 2023 #108

Did I miss something? I haven't heard them announce... themaguffin Sep 2023 #113

Were Joe Biden to step down or not run for a second term I would want a primary. Having a CHOICE in Autumn Sep 2023 #116

Historically Im not a big fan of Biden, but I don't want a primary. SYFROYH Sep 2023 #117

If Newsom or Whitmer decide to enter the race, feel free to vote for one of them. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2023 #121

I'm for Biden & I think there should be full on primaries AntivaxHunters Sep 2023 #123

It's good to want things JustAnotherGen Sep 2023 #125

I mean if you are dumb enough to vote for someone like RFK Jr. tritsofme Sep 2023 #126

This thread likely breaks no DU rule, but I see it as divisive. Stinky The Clown Sep 2023 #128

Let's pretend that we live in a healthy democracy. hay rick Sep 2023 #130

If you primary a sitting president, we always lose...anyone who runs is politically dead. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #131