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Ocelot II

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85. Really!

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #80)

Wed Sep 27, 2023, 12:54 PM

Sep 2023

It's devolved to a completely us vs. them, Manichaean mentality according to which all Republicans are Evil and all Democrats are Good. No Democrats ever do anything bad; no Republicans ever do anything good. All Democrats will go to Heaven and all Republicans are consigned to the fires of Hell. If you ever worked for a Republican politician, no matter how briefly, you are irredeemably evil and anything you ever do afterwards will not wash away your mortal sin. You are beyond redemption. If you try to mend the errors of your evil ways by confessing to the authorities it doesn't matter because you should have done it voluntarily a long time ago. I cast you out, unclean spirit, along with every Satanic power of the enemy, every specter from hell, and all your fell companions! Or something like that.

Seriously, this is nuts. I'm going to go buy her book now.

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Malcolm Nance just criticized Cassidy Hutchinson for [View all] rzemanfl Sep 2023 OP

I think it may have been a good thing for the J6 committe to know Trump chanted Hang Mike Pence. Autumn Sep 2023 #1

Yup mucifer Sep 2023 #2

We don't know that they didn't. rzemanfl Sep 2023 #5

That says it's from her book. The committe heard that Trump demonstrated support for chants, Autumn Sep 2023 #23

According to the article, the committee knew this information from other sources. rzemanfl Sep 2023 #29

But not from her. She saved that for her book. Autumn Sep 2023 #39

I'm not sure how much of what you typed there is a quote, and from where? (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2023 #125

Fixed it. Link is now there and fixed the excerpt. Autumn Sep 2023 #139

re: "In her book, Hutchinson puts forth several previously unheard claims" thesquanderer Sep 2023 #143

I never give any republican the benefit of the doubt. She still supported Trump, that alone Autumn Sep 2023 #146

when did she admit she lied? i heard her say she omitted things but i didn't hear her say she lied orleans Sep 2023 #154

She said I don't recall and I don't remember many times when she did remember. Autumn Sep 2023 #160

Yep, Cassidy Hutchinson Used To Be A Republican Nat-C Fascist, She Still Is But She Used To Be Too MayReasonRule Sep 2023 #158

One is either pregnant or one is not... SomewhereInTheMiddle Sep 2023 #161

...Views, Even Fundamental Political Views, Can Change Over Time. MayReasonRule Sep 2023 #164

How do you know she didn't tell them that? obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #57

I would think that would have been made public. At least I hope it would since some of her Autumn Sep 2023 #72

Rock on Malcolm. we can do it Sep 2023 #3

So many men he could have criticized for sitting on info but he chose her? Hmmm . flying_wahini Sep 2023 #4

How do you know how many he's criticized. or not? Solomon Sep 2023 #98

Which male Republican book authors has he criticized? nt pnwmom Sep 2023 #156

she initially stonewalled investigators on the advice of her Trump counsel bigtree Sep 2023 #6

She was not writing a book then. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2023 #7

are you sure? bigtree Sep 2023 #9

No, I am not totally sure. rzemanfl Sep 2023 #20

I'm betting she thought about the fate of Michael Cohen and realized her personal risk Raven123 Sep 2023 #8

that too bigtree Sep 2023 #10

Huh, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #13

If you're lost, so am I. n/t ariadne0614 Sep 2023 #34

she initially had a Trump lawyer who she eventually ditched bigtree Sep 2023 #44

+1. N/T obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2023 #68

It appears your memory is indeed faulty. Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #71

"Her testimony embarrassed DOJ into finally investigating Trump." MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #100

WATCH: Aide who revealed Nixon recordings sends message to Cassidy Hutchinson emulatorloo Sep 2023 #27

Thank you! ariadne0614 Sep 2023 #35

Even Butterfield didn't reveal the existence of the tapes until he had to testify Ocelot II Sep 2023 #42

All the President's Men essentially ended with the discovery of the tapes MadameButterfly Sep 2023 #55

I agree. I'm old enough to remember it that way. CTyankee Sep 2023 #61

I'm stuck on the fact that she initially lied twice to investigators to protect Trump bigtree Sep 2023 #54

She lied because the Trump lawyer told her to. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #69

that doesn't make her a hero, it makes her a perjurer protecting Trump bigtree Sep 2023 #74

Malcolm missed the boat on this one wryter2000 Sep 2023 #144

He's spot on inthewind21 Sep 2023 #11

She looked at the opportunity to get death threats gab13by13 Sep 2023 #16

I'm getting pretty pissed off at some of these people dragging on her, Ocelot II Sep 2023 #19

In my younger days I spoke truth to power gab13by13 Sep 2023 #31

Thank you for this. Trust_Reality Sep 2023 #106

I am, too obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #58

when the FBI questions you, you tell them the truth bigtree Sep 2023 #70

ALL of the people who testified against TFG at the 1/6 hearing were Republicans. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #73

no needs to laud republicans who decide to tell the truth bigtree Sep 2023 #81

Same with Alexander Butterfield and John Dean, then. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #82

why so obtuse bigtree Sep 2023 #84

I watched the hearings too, and I know what Dean and Butterfield did Ocelot II Sep 2023 #89

she's not so much being dragged bigtree Sep 2023 #90

And when the President of the United States tells you (even indirectly) to Trust_Reality Sep 2023 #120

Especially when she might have to face insurrectionists that could have taken her life. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #95

She found herself in the middle of the "family", that is, the Trump led mobster family. Trust_Reality Sep 2023 #112

So many people claiming what they moniss Sep 2023 #111

+1 n/t ariadne0614 Sep 2023 #37

if this is our attitude toward the people MadameButterfly Sep 2023 #65

I'll tell you how bigtree Sep 2023 #86

hard to do if people like Cassidy don't come forward MadameButterfly Sep 2023 #129

mollycoddling republicans to get them to tell the truth? bigtree Sep 2023 #130

She was dealing with something she never thought would happen. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #97

Truth peachpit24 Sep 2023 #124

she was very young MadameButterfly Sep 2023 #128

Truth peachpit24 Sep 2023 #145

She's a Republican grifter AntivaxHunters Sep 2023 #12

She is an American hero who should get the most credit gab13by13 Sep 2023 #14

Not even close inthewind21 Sep 2023 #15

Do you have any experience speaking truth to power gab13by13 Sep 2023 #18

You inthewind21 Sep 2023 #25

I'm getting the impression there are quite a few disrupters on this site these days. Trust_Reality Sep 2023 #116

It does have kind of a 2016 feel to it, doesn't it? Paladin Sep 2023 #163

Yes, she is obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #60

But...but... MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #103

No she's not AntivaxHunters Sep 2023 #26

She's right up there, for sure. ariadne0614 Sep 2023 #38

ROFLMAO Snooper9 Sep 2023 #83

What?! Really?! yardwork Sep 2023 #88

Would you have had the guts, at the age of 24, to do what she did, knowing how vindictive Trump is? Ocelot II Sep 2023 #17

Trump has no legal defense to prove his innocence in court gab13by13 Sep 2023 #21

In this thread the only responses I applaud arthritisR_US Sep 2023 #30

I am waiting to get alerted on. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #32

If they are, it will be a petty move only. arthritisR_US Sep 2023 #62

There are some things that need to be said. calimary Sep 2023 #101

I suspect that "crush" had something to do with the fact Ocelot II Sep 2023 #151

I'm no expert either, but how ANYBODY could have a "daddy issue" calimary Sep 2023 #152

Eww, me either, but his own kids obviously do. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #153

Isn't that something? People on DU using the same language against her Ocelot II Sep 2023 #33

+1 n/t ariadne0614 Sep 2023 #40

Oh please inthewind21 Sep 2023 #22

If it wasn't for her testimony I don't think Jack Smith would have opened his investigation Beaverhausen Sep 2023 #45

Oh that's hilarious! MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #108

A pseudonym? Beaverhausen Sep 2023 #121

Thanks, I will MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #131

No, she isn't obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #59

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #102

You got that right. Some of the same people lauding her will trash AOC when she does something Autumn Sep 2023 #140

I don't think right now is the time to criticize her JI7 Sep 2023 #24

Wild speculation is rampant on this thread. ariadne0614 Sep 2023 #28

She even apologized for being a part of the J6 insurrection. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #43

Exactly ariadne0614 Sep 2023 #53

I wonder if she has a political career in mind? True Dough Sep 2023 #36

I have one last thing to say gab13by13 Sep 2023 #41

I would rec this response if I could. I think that is a DU4 feature. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2023 #46

That's exactly what the Trumpers are already saying about her. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #47

Me too--if only Malcolm had done his homework. It isn't like him to be so careless. ariadne0614 Sep 2023 #51

accusing people who disagree with you of some kind of similarity to Trump defenders bigtree Sep 2023 #50

The lawyer Trump hired for her instructed her to lie. Ocelot II Sep 2023 #52

she's either a delicate flower or a rock bigtree Sep 2023 #56

So she made a choice to willingly lie. Too bad she wasn't sworn in to tell the truth of what she Autumn Sep 2023 #75

You've Mentioned That Multiple Times ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #141

And I'll mention it once again. The specific lie she was instructed to tell Ocelot II Sep 2023 #148

And We Disagree ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #150

100% agree with you --the attacks against her here are shocking obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #63

So far she has been good, and there is no evidence to the contrary. Let her be. housecat Sep 2023 #109

well said. But I believe young folks under 30 don't always know librechik Sep 2023 #162

I have high regard for her. She's courageous. What if ALBliberal Sep 2023 #48

I'm willing to see how this plays out MontanaMama Sep 2023 #49

Well said, Mama obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #64

I agree Bayard Sep 2023 #67

Yes. MontanaMama Sep 2023 #76

Thanks Mama. emulatorloo Sep 2023 #93

Credit Where Credit Is Due: Hutchinson Is An Accessory Before & After The Fact MayReasonRule Sep 2023 #157

I respectfully disagree. MontanaMama Sep 2023 #165

Here's To Me Being 100% Wrong Regarding Hutchinson!! MayReasonRule Sep 2023 #166

What will Malcolm Nance's criticism affect in the long run? Caliman73 Sep 2023 #66

Hutchinson is still esoterically evil. The Grand Illuminist Sep 2023 #77

What does that even mean? Ocelot II Sep 2023 #78

They misspelt 'esoterically' ? Celerity Sep 2023 #115

My bad. The Grand Illuminist Sep 2023 #142

OMG she is not evil obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #80

Really! Ocelot II Sep 2023 #85

Yeah. Excoriating witnesses who testify against Trump and are helping Smith and Willis emulatorloo Sep 2023 #91

no, I want truth bigtree Sep 2023 #92

Well said, and guess what? obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #104

Well said Doc Sportello Sep 2023 #107

This isn't even a debate. It is indeed nuts. housecat Sep 2023 #110

Hear hear! Celerity Sep 2023 #127

Why are some critics so positive about things we really do not know yet. Give her a chance. housecat Sep 2023 #117

Namce should stick to national security matters Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #79

I can't think of anything more national security related than J6. yardwork Sep 2023 #87

He is dissing a low level Trump staffer who came forward to testify Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #119

Hello? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #132

I agree. It is also up to the Jan 6 committee to figure out questions needed to ask. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #94

I will just point out that she is a die hard republican. drray23 Sep 2023 #96

If she hadn't given her testimony to the J6 committee wryter2000 Sep 2023 #99

+1 SunSeeker Sep 2023 #123

as ms Hutchinson llashram Sep 2023 #105

White Knight Syndrome MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #113

Sorry to hear this from Malcolm Nance, elleng Sep 2023 #114

I respect him more than this woman who still professes to be a repub. Liberal In Texas Sep 2023 #122

Yes MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #133

Butterfield accidentally told the truth because he had MOMFUDSKI Sep 2023 #118

I believe if news worthy activity is withheld for a book, ... aggiesal Sep 2023 #126

Two things- rzemanfl Sep 2023 #138

So I didn't accuse her of anything ... aggiesal Sep 2023 #149

I'm very disappointed to see so many cynical comments and perspectives on this thread. Trust_Reality Sep 2023 #134

Sorry MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #135

What is that supposed to mean? obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #136

Well said, and 100% agree obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #137

I'm just glad she came through. Torchlight Sep 2023 #147

Rats Jump From Sinking Ship - More At Five... MayReasonRule Sep 2023 #159

Change his tune? um... no. It's his opinion. He doesn't have to change anything ecstatic Sep 2023 #155