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18. This makes the assumption that TFG didn't direct his attorneys to NOT make the request.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Oct 2, 2023, 08:07 PM

Oct 2023

Think about it. TFG probably consulted with them and came to the conclusion that a jury of his peers would probably get even uglier than having a judge's decision.

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"Mind-blowing": Legal experts warn that lawyer's incredible "screw-up" is "very ominous" for Trump [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2023 OP

"Ineffective counsel" defense? Drum Oct 2023 #1

That's what I thought as well. mzmolly Oct 2023 #3

With Just-Us Clarence waiting in the wings. Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #8

Yeah orthoclad Oct 2023 #35

You Don't Suppose He Still Can't Distinguish Between a State and Federal Case? The Roux Comes First Oct 2023 #61

He sees power on the Court orthoclad Oct 2023 #62

Ineffective assistance of counsel is strictly for appeals in criminal cases. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2023 #16

Ohh gotcha! mzmolly Oct 2023 #20

Drumpf? I think not, this all for show. Malpractice is the remedy. It doesn't happen on appeal. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2023 #21

That would be a separate trial, with Trump suing his attorney Ms. Toad Oct 2023 #25

Good to know. mzmolly Oct 2023 #27

Maybe not asking for a jury trial was not an accidental oversight. wnylib Oct 2023 #34

Yep canetoad Oct 2023 #52

I appreciate you making this distinction! Drum Oct 2023 #51

Exactly judesedit Oct 2023 #44

I view this as BS designed to overturn any guilty or award decision on appeal. fredamoss3 Oct 2023 #53

Low rent strip mall lawyers is all he can get nowadays captain queeg Oct 2023 #2

"Only the best people" - isn't that what famously proclaimed? n/t thenelm1 Oct 2023 #43

Not very low rent: " Alina Habba, took in nearly $2 million..." progressoid Oct 2023 #47

I suspect they got what they wanted. Not an attorney, but seems one could appeal Silent Type Oct 2023 #4

CNN is saying THE JUDGE IS WRONG??? rzemanfl Oct 2023 #22

No. They are saying there was no option for jury trial. Silent Type Oct 2023 #32

Court of equity. They could have asked, so the judge was not wrong. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom Oct 2023 #48

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #5

I too, find this comical... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #64

Civil juries in New York are six jurors, five of whom must agree. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #6

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2023 #19

This Sgent Oct 2023 #36

Deliberate. [Redacted]'s team knows how deeply he's hated in NY. TygrBright Oct 2023 #7

Please see my post above regarding New York civil juries. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2023 #9

LOL... thank you. You posted just as I hit the "reply" button! TygrBright Oct 2023 #11

Also, "ineffective assistance of counsel" only applies in criminal cases. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #12

Could well be. He might end up suing his lawyers, too... TygrBright Oct 2023 #24

Wouldn't the jury be seated at the beginning? LiberalFighter Oct 2023 #10

A cursory study of the history would reveal the answer...summary judgment, Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #45

These "experts" are wrong Oldvet Oct 2023 #13

"Judicial Prejudice" - I said ugly things about the judge so therefore he hates me. groundloop Oct 2023 #26

Please ignore my OP looking for your post. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #31

So Engoron was just blowing smoke? dpibel Oct 2023 #33

They did not request a jury trial. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #40

The poster to whom I replied dpibel Oct 2023 #49

Very well Oldvet Oct 2023 #63

Thank You. onenote Oct 2023 #65

What error did he make? (I haven't been watching, but probably wouldn't know it if I saw it.) Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #38

Alina Humuna-humuna Hekate Oct 2023 #14

Not sure there's much of a fatal attraction there anymore. erronis Oct 2023 #39

I suspect that Trump himself wanted a bench trial because he has lost too much with Bev54 Oct 2023 #15

Civil trial, not criminal rules...different ballpark. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #46

Nope, you can change your mind to a bench trial. Bev54 Oct 2023 #50

You can try! 2 years later after multiple rulings...good luck!! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #56

Rulings have nothing to do with this, rulings are made by the Judge. Bev54 Oct 2023 #58

Precisely, can't wait two years and multiple rulings,,,then want a jury!!? 14 day rule for reason! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #59

Do some research! Bev54 Oct 2023 #60

There will be an immense sigh of relief Richard D Oct 2023 #17

Not In This Case ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #23

This makes the assumption that TFG didn't direct his attorneys to NOT make the request. ffr Oct 2023 #18

...trial is over, liability has been summarily found..,now it's an equitable relief being requested Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #57

No wonder x45 never pays his lawyers COL Mustard Oct 2023 #28

So this judge willset the fines? Seems like whatever they are he will appeal. captain queeg Oct 2023 #29

I tend to agree with other people I read that Trump wanted a bench trial Recycle_Guru Oct 2023 #30

I agree. All Trump cares about is how he is perceived. Haggard Celine Oct 2023 #54

Welcome to the DT speculation game... Snackshack Oct 2023 #41

But get this.... paleotn Oct 2023 #42

Has anyone told trump yet? Because I don't think he got the memo ecstatic Oct 2023 #55