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paleotn

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42. But get this....

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Oct 2, 2023, 09:03 PM

Oct 2023

His company is still liable for the debit on the properties he may lose in this case and the debt where some of those properties might have been counted as collateral, violating his loan agreements. Maybe he is personally. I certainly hope so. Either way, he's fucked. What an unmitigated mess this will cause him.

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"Mind-blowing": Legal experts warn that lawyer's incredible "screw-up" is "very ominous" for Trump [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2023 OP

"Ineffective counsel" defense? Drum Oct 2023 #1

That's what I thought as well. mzmolly Oct 2023 #3

With Just-Us Clarence waiting in the wings. Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #8

Yeah orthoclad Oct 2023 #35

You Don't Suppose He Still Can't Distinguish Between a State and Federal Case? The Roux Comes First Oct 2023 #61

He sees power on the Court orthoclad Oct 2023 #62

Ineffective assistance of counsel is strictly for appeals in criminal cases. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2023 #16

Ohh gotcha! mzmolly Oct 2023 #20

Drumpf? I think not, this all for show. Malpractice is the remedy. It doesn't happen on appeal. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2023 #21

That would be a separate trial, with Trump suing his attorney Ms. Toad Oct 2023 #25

Good to know. mzmolly Oct 2023 #27

Maybe not asking for a jury trial was not an accidental oversight. wnylib Oct 2023 #34

Yep canetoad Oct 2023 #52

I appreciate you making this distinction! Drum Oct 2023 #51

Exactly judesedit Oct 2023 #44

I view this as BS designed to overturn any guilty or award decision on appeal. fredamoss3 Oct 2023 #53

Low rent strip mall lawyers is all he can get nowadays captain queeg Oct 2023 #2

"Only the best people" - isn't that what famously proclaimed? n/t thenelm1 Oct 2023 #43

Not very low rent: " Alina Habba, took in nearly $2 million..." progressoid Oct 2023 #47

I suspect they got what they wanted. Not an attorney, but seems one could appeal Silent Type Oct 2023 #4

CNN is saying THE JUDGE IS WRONG??? rzemanfl Oct 2023 #22

No. They are saying there was no option for jury trial. Silent Type Oct 2023 #32

Court of equity. They could have asked, so the judge was not wrong. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom Oct 2023 #48

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #5

I too, find this comical... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #64

Civil juries in New York are six jurors, five of whom must agree. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #6

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2023 #19

This Sgent Oct 2023 #36

Deliberate. [Redacted]'s team knows how deeply he's hated in NY. TygrBright Oct 2023 #7

Please see my post above regarding New York civil juries. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2023 #9

LOL... thank you. You posted just as I hit the "reply" button! TygrBright Oct 2023 #11

Also, "ineffective assistance of counsel" only applies in criminal cases. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #12

Could well be. He might end up suing his lawyers, too... TygrBright Oct 2023 #24

Wouldn't the jury be seated at the beginning? LiberalFighter Oct 2023 #10

A cursory study of the history would reveal the answer...summary judgment, Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #45

These "experts" are wrong Oldvet Oct 2023 #13

"Judicial Prejudice" - I said ugly things about the judge so therefore he hates me. groundloop Oct 2023 #26

Please ignore my OP looking for your post. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #31

So Engoron was just blowing smoke? dpibel Oct 2023 #33

They did not request a jury trial. rzemanfl Oct 2023 #40

The poster to whom I replied dpibel Oct 2023 #49

Very well Oldvet Oct 2023 #63

Thank You. onenote Oct 2023 #65

What error did he make? (I haven't been watching, but probably wouldn't know it if I saw it.) Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #38

Alina Humuna-humuna Hekate Oct 2023 #14

Not sure there's much of a fatal attraction there anymore. erronis Oct 2023 #39

I suspect that Trump himself wanted a bench trial because he has lost too much with Bev54 Oct 2023 #15

Civil trial, not criminal rules...different ballpark. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #46

Nope, you can change your mind to a bench trial. Bev54 Oct 2023 #50

You can try! 2 years later after multiple rulings...good luck!! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #56

Rulings have nothing to do with this, rulings are made by the Judge. Bev54 Oct 2023 #58

Precisely, can't wait two years and multiple rulings,,,then want a jury!!? 14 day rule for reason! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #59

Do some research! Bev54 Oct 2023 #60

There will be an immense sigh of relief Richard D Oct 2023 #17

Not In This Case ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #23

This makes the assumption that TFG didn't direct his attorneys to NOT make the request. ffr Oct 2023 #18

...trial is over, liability has been summarily found..,now it's an equitable relief being requested Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #57

No wonder x45 never pays his lawyers COL Mustard Oct 2023 #28

So this judge willset the fines? Seems like whatever they are he will appeal. captain queeg Oct 2023 #29

I tend to agree with other people I read that Trump wanted a bench trial Recycle_Guru Oct 2023 #30

I agree. All Trump cares about is how he is perceived. Haggard Celine Oct 2023 #54

Welcome to the DT speculation game... Snackshack Oct 2023 #41

But get this.... paleotn Oct 2023 #42

Has anyone told trump yet? Because I don't think he got the memo ecstatic Oct 2023 #55