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DFW

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43. First talk with our daughter this morning. Sounded like an action movie screenplay.
Sun Oct 8, 2023, 04:13 AM
Oct 2023

Some intense juggling went back and forth, but they finally allowed a couple of Lufthansa planes to land from Germany, and that‘s how they got home. If the Palestinians had any surface-to-air missiles, they were smart enough to not use them on passenger planes of European airlines.

The sister of our daughter‘s S.O. is still stuck there, as her flight was later. Apparently Hezbollah launched some attacks this morning from Lebanon, so this was obviously more coordinated than previously thought.

One of their Israeli friends was at some big celebration near the Gaza border. There were something like 4000 people there, and this where the killing and abduction of many Israelis took place. He got to his car, but two armed Hamas guys blocked his way. Rather than risk whatever it was they were planning to do with him, he ran them over. His car was a mess, but at least he escaped and made it home alive. He said he was pretty sure they did not.

I‘ve never been to Israel, but I have been told Tel Aviv is a modern, European-style city. It is hard to imagine that this kind of thing happens less than a two hour drive away, or that they have to be prepared for missiles to fall on them at any moment. My Ukraine-based nephew is in the same situation to some degree, minus the abductions and hostage-taking.

Having escaped the Vietnam War, the closest I have come to anything like this was missing some terror bombings of European airports (Frankfurt, Brussels), but I was never in the thick of it. When I have grandchildren ages 3 and 5 having to go through this, I remember the expression, „it‘s the nature of the beast,“ and have to reflect upon just how little, for all our technological sophistication, we have evolved from being beasts, all the more dangerous for their sophistication. Someone has to do the planning, recruit the attackers, train them, finance their weapons, do the indoctrination, legitimize the cruelty. What blows me away is that so many people find this preferable to going up to the border fence and telling the people on the other side, „hey, let‘s not do this.“

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What a literal "wake-up" call this morning. I can only hope for the best for your family members & hlthe2b Oct 2023 #1
Israel apparently has state of the art communications DFW Oct 2023 #4
I know everyone here is so sorry to hear that! Varaddem Oct 2023 #2
When they get back to Europe safely, we'll all breathe a sigh of relief. DFW Oct 2023 #3
Yikes! Good luck to your family. electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #5
Thanks! DFW Oct 2023 #6
True, unfortunately. Hopefully they'll stay safe. electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #7
I don't know what to add. Ptah Oct 2023 #8
I hope your family gets home safely. I am sorry for the innocent victims. Chainfire Oct 2023 #9
you are too cynical for me electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #38
I am sorry if the truth is painful. Chainfire Oct 2023 #45
Er, not necessarily.There are plenty of kind, gentle people in this whole world that either don't electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #48
Er, not necessarily.There are plenty of kind, gentle people in this whole world that either don't electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #49
How horrible for your family... rubbersole Oct 2023 #10
How will Putin face a trial under any circumstances? brooklynite Oct 2023 #11
The Euopeans do, though. But... malthaussen Oct 2023 #13
Sending good vibes for your family members so they return home unharmed physically KS Toronado Oct 2023 #12
Terrorism rarely works, that's true... malthaussen Oct 2023 #14
Good post. /nt yardwork Oct 2023 #19
I'm so sorry, DFW. Praying they can get a flight home very soon. highplainsdem Oct 2023 #15
Put them on a train to a different hub, rent them a car if you have to. Get them safe. Prairie_Seagull Oct 2023 #16
I'm so sorry your nephew is in harm's way. MontanaMama Oct 2023 #17
Omigod, my dear DFW! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2023 #18
I'm sorry that this is affecting your family so personally. yardwork Oct 2023 #20
Putin is a terrorist of the worst caliber FakeNoose Oct 2023 #21
Oh my dear friend, may all return to safety speedily and soon... Hekate Oct 2023 #22
Hubby has MSNBC on for news of Israel, where he has relatives. Is your daughter still in Tel Aviv? Hekate Oct 2023 #23
That is where they were DFW Oct 2023 #32
I don't pray, but I'm thinking peaceful thoughts of safety for your loved ones. nt Trueblue Texan Oct 2023 #24
Neither do we, but we appreciate the sentiments! n/t DFW Oct 2023 #31
The latest is that they have closed the Tel Aviv airport. DFW Oct 2023 #25
thank you for that airport info. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2023 #26
They did somehow get people out DFW Oct 2023 #29
Oh my goodness! elleng Oct 2023 #27
I truly hope they are all returned to safety asap. Take care Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #28
UPDATE: Thanks for the good wishes, all. My daughter and family made it home, though not undamaged. DFW Oct 2023 #30
Oh, thank God they're home! Re the children's PTSD - there's a highplainsdem Oct 2023 #33
I'm sure that will be a priority. DFW Oct 2023 #35
Thank you for this. chia Oct 2023 #44
DFW, would you please add the word UPDATE to your OP, with a note at the top of the original text highplainsdem Oct 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author DFW Oct 2023 #36
Glad everyone is back. Poor, kids, though. And -that- many rockets? Yikes! electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #39
💕💕. Thank God they are home. I am so relieved for you. 💕💕 Hekate Oct 2023 #41
Ich spreche scheies Deutsch, aber ich bin froh, dass deine Familie in Sicherheit ist Violet_Crumble Oct 2023 #37
tangential feelings re where your nephew was... electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #40
Here in Europe, tiny villages are often close to bigger cities. DFW Oct 2023 #42
First talk with our daughter this morning. Sounded like an action movie screenplay. DFW Oct 2023 #43
I hope your daughter's sister-in-law can get out soon. highplainsdem Oct 2023 #46
She was so far safe in an air raid shelter in Tel Aviv DFW Oct 2023 #47
The latest was that she had gotten to Istanbul on a Turkish Airlines flight DFW Oct 2023 #52
Thank you for the update Marthe48 Oct 2023 #51
Please let us know when your loved ones are safe Marthe48 Oct 2023 #50
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