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WhiteTara

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39. Here is some context to the present day madness
Mon Oct 9, 2023, 12:56 AM
Oct 2023
https://imeu.org/article/the-sabra-shatila-massacre

On September 16, 1982, Christian Lebanese militiamen allied to Israel entered the Palestinian refugee camp of Shatila and the adjacent neighborhood of Sabra in Beirut under the watch of the Israeli army and began a slaughter that caused outrage around the world. Over the next day and a half, up to 3500 Palestinian and Lebanese civilians, mostly women, children, and the elderly, were murdered in one of the worst atrocities in modern Middle Eastern history. The New York Times recently published an op-ed containing new details of discussions held between Israeli and American officials before and during the massacre. They reveal how Israeli officials, led by then-Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, misled and bullied American diplomats, rebuffing their concerns about the safety of the inhabitants of Sabra and Shatila.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre#


The Sabra and Shatila massacre was the killing in Lebanon of between 460 and 3,500 civilians—mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites—by the militia of the Lebanese Forces. The group was a Maronite Christian Lebanese right-wing party under the command of Elie Hobeika. It committed the atrocity in the Sabra neighborhood and the adjacent Shatila refugee camp, in Beirut. President Bachir Gemayel had been assassinated two days earlier and the Phalangists sought revenge.[4]

From approximately 18:00 on 16 September to 08:00 on 18 September 1982, a widespread massacre was carried out by the militia, while the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) had the camp surrounded.[5][6][7][8] The militia had been ordered by the IDF to clear Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) fighters out of Sabra and Shatila, as part of the IDF's maneuvering into West Beirut. As the massacre unfolded, the IDF received reports of atrocities but did not take any action to prevent or stop the massacre.[9]

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The Sabra and Shatila massacre was the killing in Lebanon of between 460 and 3,500 civilians—mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites—by the militia of the Lebanese Forces. The group was a Maronite Christian Lebanese right-wing party under the command of Elie Hobeika. It committed the atrocity in the Sabra neighborhood and the adjacent Shatila refugee camp, in Beirut. President Bachir Gemayel had been assassinated two days earlier and the Phalangists sought revenge.[4]

From approximately 18:00 on 16 September to 08:00 on 18 September 1982, a widespread massacre was carried out by the militia, while the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) had the camp surrounded.[5][6][7][8] The militia had been ordered by the IDF to clear Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) fighters out of Sabra and Shatila, as part of the IDF's maneuvering into West Beirut. As the massacre unfolded, the IDF received reports of atrocities but did not take any action to prevent or stop the massacre.[9]

In June 1982, the IDF had invaded Lebanon with the intention of rooting out the PLO. By 30 August 1982, under the supervision of the Multinational Force, the PLO withdrew from Lebanon following weeks of battles in West Beirut and shortly before the massacre took place. Various forces—Israeli, Lebanese Forces and possibly also the South Lebanon Army (SLA)—were in the vicinity of Sabra and Shatila at the time of the slaughter, taking advantage of the fact that the Multinational Force had removed barracks and mines that had encircled Beirut's predominantly Muslim neighborhoods and kept the Israelis at bay during the Beirut siege.[10] The Israeli advance over West Beirut in the wake of the PLO withdrawal, which enabled the Lebanese Forces raid, was in violation of the ceasefire agreement between the various forces.[11] The Israeli Army surrounded Sabra and Shatila and stationed troops at the exits of the area to prevent camp residents from leaving and, at the request of the Lebanese Forces,[12] fired illuminating flares at night.[13][14]

According to Alain Menargues, the direct perpetrators of the killings were the "Young Men", a gang recruited by Elie Hobeika (the Lebanese Forces intelligence chief and liaison officer with Mossad), from men who had been expelled from the Lebanese Forces for insubordination or criminal activities.[15] The killings are widely believed to have taken place under Hobeika's direct orders. Hobeika's family and fiancée had been murdered by Palestinian militiamen and their Lebanese allies during the 1976 Damour massacre, itself a response to the Karantina massacre of Palestinians and Lebanese Muslims at the hands of Christian militants two days before.[16][17][18][19] In all 300–400 militiamen were involved, including some from Sa'ad Haddad's South Lebanon Army.[20]

In February 1983, a commission chaired by Seán MacBride, the assistant to the UN Secretary General and President of United Nations General Assembly at the time, looking into reported violations of International Law by Israel concluded that Israel, as the camp's occupying power, bore responsibility for the violence.[21] The commission also concluded that the massacre was a form of genocide.[22]

In February 1983, the Israeli Kahan Commission, appointed to investigate the incident, found that Israeli military personnel, aware that a massacre was in progress, had failed to take serious steps to stop it. The commission deemed Israel indirectly responsible, and Ariel Sharon, then Defense Minister, bore personal responsibility "for ignoring the danger of bloodshed and revenge", forcing him to resign.[23]

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Hamas uses civilians aa human shields JI7 Oct 2023 #1
Very true AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #2
Your OP headline is misleading. wnylib Oct 2023 #28
You might want to check with the UN data kevinore Oct 2023 #36
I'm just advocating for truth up front in posting. wnylib Oct 2023 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Oct 2023 #42
That is so cowardly, and plain wrong. (No support for Netanyahu, either) electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #8
There have been many documented cases PhylliPretzel Oct 2023 #13
Link, please? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #18
I hadn't heard about this either, so I Googled it. progressoid Oct 2023 #35
True or False BidenRocks Oct 2023 #20
If you can't produce links to back up that claim, you should delete your post. wnylib Oct 2023 #30
The same UN that Iran, Russia and China are in? AkFemDem Oct 2023 #3
You should be cynical. The chart was produced wnylib Oct 2023 #32
I don't understand the chart. The numbers dont make any sense mahina Oct 2023 #40
Oh well in that case its no big deal edisdead Oct 2023 #4
The costs of the conflict have been so high. David__77 Oct 2023 #5
how many of those palestinians lapfog_1 Oct 2023 #6
Fair point AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #7
Dead is dead. roamer65 Oct 2023 #9
What will advance the Palestinian cause? Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #10
HAMAS Terrorists Attacks on Cha Oct 2023 #11
No actually these horrific attacks endanger Palestinians lives as well. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #14
No ethnic group puts up with apartheid for forever. brush Oct 2023 #33
This is true. You need to look back at the history of the establishment of Israel wnylib Oct 2023 #37
If I'm not careful about it, I can still be angry with Britain for what they did to my great great mahina Oct 2023 #41
PEACE is the answer. Hieronymus Phact Oct 2023 #16
It is impossible to negotiate from a position of weakness. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #19
You're wrong about a few things... Hieronymus Phact Oct 2023 #29
The evidence does not back your claims. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #44
So i'm a racist now for asking why the Isrealis are on the hook for events of 1000 years ago? Hieronymus Phact Oct 2023 #45
You may act as indignant as you choose. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #46
Fine I'll take the last word Hieronymus Phact Oct 2023 #47
what about only showing the deaths, this shows the Israelis showed restraint Shellback Squid Oct 2023 #12
No matter how many they kill they keep coming back.. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #15
Now Palestine will be decimated. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #25
Feel better now? The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #26
Palistine is an oppressed society. These numbers are horrific! mysteryowl Oct 2023 #17
Palestinian Prisoner and Martyr Payments Explained Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #21
Israelpolicyforum sounds very unbiased lol AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #27
Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #22
a phyrrhic attack. hoist by their own petard. pansypoo53219 Oct 2023 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Marius25 Oct 2023 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Oct 2023 #31
Israel..251 total deaths since 2008 then 700 yesterday... shocking Demovictory9 Oct 2023 #34
Here is some context to the present day madness WhiteTara Oct 2023 #39
So the Iron Dome missile defense system works. lapucelle Oct 2023 #43
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