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Martin68

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54. While religion is one cause, it is also a matter of territory and who it belongs to. Don't minimize

Mon Oct 9, 2023, 01:06 PM

Oct 2023

the importance of the land taken away by the Israelis to build walls and make settlements. don't forget that the biggest sticking point to peace is the Palestinian's insistence on the Right to Return to land taken from them in 1948 when many were forced to leave their homes.

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Some truth in the fog prevalent this morning [View all] justaprogressive Oct 2023 OP

Disgusting. There are no "two sides" Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #1

There are most definitely two sides. If you don't understand that this conflict has ben going on Martin68 Oct 2023 #43

None of that justifies these atrocities Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #45

It is gross to deny that both sides have committed atrocities during this endless conflict. Israel Martin68 Oct 2023 #53

Where did I deny that? I didn't Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #58

I apologize. Upon re-reading your post I see the I completely misunderstood your stance. Martin68 Oct 2023 #60

Thank you! I very much appreciate your integrity!!! NT Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #71

You're looking at a symptom AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #70

Greatest Page for your very important post, my dear justaprogressive. Richly deserved. nt CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2023 #2

Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2023 #3

How many declared wars and attacks would you have them go through... justaprogressive Oct 2023 #4

Who? Israel? MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2023 #7

Which undeclared wars are you talking about? The 1956 war, the 1967 war, or the 1973 war, which JohnSJ Oct 2023 #8

Closer to one-siderism than both-siderism. Seems to ignore who started the 1967 and 1973 wars onenote Oct 2023 #9

+100. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2023 #12

You do realize that before Israel was created.... RussBLib Oct 2023 #50

If you're referring to my thread where I brought up that I think WWIII is on the horizen, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2023 #57

Understood RussBLib Oct 2023 #62

Thanks for the reply, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2023 #64

Conveniently ignoring I might ass JohnSJ Oct 2023 #29

It sure is easy to say "the latest is ll their fault" as if it took place in a vacuum. Martin68 Oct 2023 #44

Bibi created this mess and worked with Hamas to divide the Palestinian peoples IbogaProject Oct 2023 #5

The 1967 and you Kipper war were unprovoked attempt by the neighboring Arab JohnSJ Oct 2023 #6

Because of those wars, Israel captured land MyMission Oct 2023 #14

That is correct. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #17

The IDF will withdraw when it's objectives are reached or frustrated, then America will demand Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #10

Correct. Wash, rinse and repeat over and over and over... brush Oct 2023 #37

As long as treaties have been written they have been broken. flying_wahini Oct 2023 #11

Folks don"t want the truth malaise Oct 2023 #13

Let's hold a vision of a world mahina Oct 2023 #20

Metaphorically malaise Oct 2023 #30

♥️ mahina Oct 2023 #34

Well, there is that. calimary Oct 2023 #47

Finally! MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #55

All in the name of a God Farmer-Rick Oct 2023 #15

+100. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2023 #16

People, motivated by many influences, hold the second place trophy...... jaxexpat Oct 2023 #21

Let me rephrase that, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2023 #27

All in the name of a god... Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #18

And they wonder why I have none malaise Oct 2023 #25

Amen Farmer-Rick Oct 2023 #38

Sure does look that way, doesn't it. calimary Oct 2023 #48

It is most,y used for control and to enrich the 'chosen' from a variety of religions malaise Oct 2023 #65

While religion is one cause, it is also a matter of territory and who it belongs to. Don't minimize Martin68 Oct 2023 #54

And Jewish people living in Arab lands at that time Mossfern Oct 2023 #61

No, it is not overlooked. I have just been making the point that the conflict is as much about Martin68 Oct 2023 #67

Reminds me of the English and Irish troubles Farmer-Rick Oct 2023 #69

Indeed. Excellent point! Martin68 Oct 2023 #72

And in the name of borders, economics, politics, etc., as well. Torchlight Oct 2023 #59

It is never about picking sides. MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #19

Israel was deemed an apartheid oppressor of Palestinian territories... there are two sides JT45242 Oct 2023 #22

Jimmy Carter is correct malaise Oct 2023 #32

And you both. duhneece Oct 2023 #39

I would say I'm surprised by the number of people here demonstrating selective outrage redqueen Oct 2023 #23

I can always depend on coming here for some good Israel both siderism. LexVegas Oct 2023 #24

One must appreciate and not rile the "not me" defenders of all things wrong sanatanadharma Oct 2023 #26

Seems like your post is only giving one side of the story XorXor Oct 2023 #28

You're correct justaprogressive Oct 2023 #31

I have a hard time trusting anything that skews only to one side XorXor Oct 2023 #56

Israelites And Palestinians Have Been At War With Each Other Since Their Split In 975 BCE MayReasonRule Oct 2023 #33

Oh, wow, you even quote scripture Farmer-Rick Oct 2023 #41

We're On The Same Page Farmer-Rick MayReasonRule Oct 2023 #51

You forgot to add that Palestinians have been trying to violently overthow Israel since the 40s ripcord Oct 2023 #35

You forgot to mention the butchering of citizens in large groups question everything Oct 2023 #36

You mean like this: justaprogressive Oct 2023 #63

DURec leftstreet Oct 2023 #40

This article is Palestinian propaganda Mosby Oct 2023 #42

This is not truth. It's pure spin. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #46

These two peoples will fight each other Mr.Bill Oct 2023 #49

This. There will never be true peace in that area. calimary Oct 2023 #52

There's no mention of Amin al-Husseini in the article. lapucelle Oct 2023 #66

Problems both sides AncientOfDays Oct 2023 #68