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Big Blue Marble

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44. The evidence does not back your claims.
Mon Oct 9, 2023, 03:02 PM
Oct 2023

Your simplified version whitewashes the fact that Israel was founded in terrorism and violence
that led to the expulsion

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/may/18/a-jewish-case-for-palestinian-refugee-return

"The Israeli historian Benny Morris notes that David Ben-Gurion, soon to be Israel’s first prime minister, “clearly wanted as few Arabs as possible in the Jewish State”. As early as 1938, Ben-Gurion had declared: “I support compulsory transfer.” His logic, concludes Morris, was clear: “Without some sort of massive displacement of Arabs from the area of the Jewish state-to-be, there could be no viable ‘Jewish’ state.

The inhabitants where expelled by the thousands with violence and acts of terrorism by the
Haganah and other militant groups. And then their homes and land was confiscated.

" "The scale of the land theft was astonishing. When the UN passed its partition plan in November 1947, Jews owned roughly 7% of the territory of Mandatory Palestine. By the early 50s, almost 95% of Israel’s land was owned by the Jewish state."

Your very statement: "How can the Israelis be on the hook for things that happened in 1046 before there were any "Palestinians" in the modern sense?" is racist. These were people living both in their villages an in
urban neighborhoods driven from their homes. 1000's died and many more were injured. Rape was common
and looting was rampant. It does not matter what you choose to call them. They were ethnically cleansed from their land and their homes.


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Hamas uses civilians aa human shields JI7 Oct 2023 #1
Very true AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #2
Your OP headline is misleading. wnylib Oct 2023 #28
You might want to check with the UN data kevinore Oct 2023 #36
I'm just advocating for truth up front in posting. wnylib Oct 2023 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Oct 2023 #42
That is so cowardly, and plain wrong. (No support for Netanyahu, either) electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #8
There have been many documented cases PhylliPretzel Oct 2023 #13
Link, please? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #18
I hadn't heard about this either, so I Googled it. progressoid Oct 2023 #35
True or False BidenRocks Oct 2023 #20
If you can't produce links to back up that claim, you should delete your post. wnylib Oct 2023 #30
The same UN that Iran, Russia and China are in? AkFemDem Oct 2023 #3
You should be cynical. The chart was produced wnylib Oct 2023 #32
I don't understand the chart. The numbers dont make any sense mahina Oct 2023 #40
Oh well in that case its no big deal edisdead Oct 2023 #4
The costs of the conflict have been so high. David__77 Oct 2023 #5
how many of those palestinians lapfog_1 Oct 2023 #6
Fair point AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #7
Dead is dead. roamer65 Oct 2023 #9
What will advance the Palestinian cause? Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #10
HAMAS Terrorists Attacks on Cha Oct 2023 #11
No actually these horrific attacks endanger Palestinians lives as well. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #14
No ethnic group puts up with apartheid for forever. brush Oct 2023 #33
This is true. You need to look back at the history of the establishment of Israel wnylib Oct 2023 #37
If I'm not careful about it, I can still be angry with Britain for what they did to my great great mahina Oct 2023 #41
PEACE is the answer. Hieronymus Phact Oct 2023 #16
It is impossible to negotiate from a position of weakness. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #19
You're wrong about a few things... Hieronymus Phact Oct 2023 #29
The evidence does not back your claims. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #44
So i'm a racist now for asking why the Isrealis are on the hook for events of 1000 years ago? Hieronymus Phact Oct 2023 #45
You may act as indignant as you choose. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #46
Fine I'll take the last word Hieronymus Phact Oct 2023 #47
what about only showing the deaths, this shows the Israelis showed restraint Shellback Squid Oct 2023 #12
No matter how many they kill they keep coming back.. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #15
Now Palestine will be decimated. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #25
Feel better now? The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #26
Palistine is an oppressed society. These numbers are horrific! mysteryowl Oct 2023 #17
Palestinian Prisoner and Martyr Payments Explained Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #21
Israelpolicyforum sounds very unbiased lol AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #27
Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #22
a phyrrhic attack. hoist by their own petard. pansypoo53219 Oct 2023 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Marius25 Oct 2023 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Oct 2023 #31
Israel..251 total deaths since 2008 then 700 yesterday... shocking Demovictory9 Oct 2023 #34
Here is some context to the present day madness WhiteTara Oct 2023 #39
So the Iron Dome missile defense system works. lapucelle Oct 2023 #43
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