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16. I've been staying in the Lounge. I refuse to be a part

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Tue Oct 10, 2023, 03:02 PM

Oct 2023

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All wars are brutal, ugly and inhumane. And it seems to me that that ugliness has impacted DU. [View all] Cyrano Oct 2023 OP

Do you think... Fichefinder Oct 2023 #1

Premature. UN Peacekeepers would become targets right now. hlthe2b Oct 2023 #3

It won't work anyway Mosby Oct 2023 #4

A big problem is moniss Oct 2023 #44

Israel will never accept such a thing after what has happened for the past totodeinhere Oct 2023 #107

Rather thought-provoking, isn't it? hlthe2b Oct 2023 #2

One of the features of the Arab/Israeli conflict Mosby Oct 2023 #5

That is for sure moniss Oct 2023 #38

It's disgusting some out there are using this opportunity to attack Democratic Politicians they SunImp Oct 2023 #32

Nice misogyny your post got there. Nt Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #39

What an ironic statement Disaffected Oct 2023 #64

Actually, the Karen references get old, and they are misogynistic. yardwork Oct 2023 #108

There's been a lot of hate here. It's reached the point I'm considering leaving. Marius25 Oct 2023 #6

FWIW, it's not "a lot" of the left. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #7

Well said. yardwork Oct 2023 #110

There's a lot to think about in your post. usonian Oct 2023 #10

Who here is supporting Hamas? IronLionZion Oct 2023 #12

+1 Very well said. Earth-shine Oct 2023 #13

No one is obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #14

+1 Celerity Oct 2023 #43

No one MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #19

Didn't say people here are outright supporting them. Marius25 Oct 2023 #23

Plenty here opposed the Bush wars without supporting Saddam or Bin Laden IronLionZion Oct 2023 #24

Thank you for saying this obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #83

That's what's really been getting to me. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2023 #94

That's exactly how I found DU 20 years ago IronLionZion Oct 2023 #131

Exactly - it's disappointing and sad. nt redqueen Oct 2023 #137

Good analogy. electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #121

If Israel shouldn't be equated with Judaism, then... yardwork Oct 2023 #111

Exactly where I'm at. Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #26

I am and have always been square in this boat. I hate what Hamas did because it is PatrickforB Oct 2023 #30

I feel the same housecat Oct 2023 #58

Correct me if I am wrong, but DUers can't possibly fully understand a surprise attack that has been housecat Oct 2023 #82

What you said. Amaryllis Oct 2023 #100

I'm in this boat, too. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #87

Sounds about right to me. electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #120

Thanks. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #138

1000% nt Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #68

Its not so much specifically supporting Hamas. It is more like ignoring the atrocities totodeinhere Oct 2023 #109

Agree with you 100%. beaglelover Oct 2023 #31

I get the emotion and share it, but your constant accusation of fellow DUers of being "HATE-FILLED" hlthe2b Oct 2023 #41

Well said. Bev54 Oct 2023 #60

+1 obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #73

I do agree this mess is really getting to me so I'll probably try to take a break from some of the Marius25 Oct 2023 #84

Yikes, hadn't heard about the Sydney rally! Hideous! electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #125

Ty electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #122

Good level headed take, but many will ignore it SunImp Oct 2023 #126

Please stay. Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #42

Stick around. Disunity is just what Hamas would love to see. wnylib Oct 2023 #69

Your frustration is completely valid Zeitghost Oct 2023 #81

Well, I will always be on Israel's side Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #98

I've avoided this forum Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #130

Palestinians angrychair Oct 2023 #8

Pawns of whom? boston bean Oct 2023 #28

Pawns of many different moniss Oct 2023 #33

Name them. boston bean Oct 2023 #37

The US moniss Oct 2023 #50

And no mention of Hamas. Oooooookkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyy boston bean Oct 2023 #61

Did you not get the etc. etc.? moniss Oct 2023 #62

I got that you left off the numero uno. boston bean Oct 2023 #66

This is similar to what others have posted moniss Oct 2023 #76

I read what was not there, you are right about that. boston bean Oct 2023 #77

Considering that at the past few days the deliberate heneious atrocity that Hamas did; that.. electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #144

Oh my well then there must moniss Oct 2023 #146

The question to ask here is who profits in money from keeping these PatrickforB Oct 2023 #34

Oh wow. No mention of HAMAS. Very telling. boston bean Oct 2023 #36

Classic conspiracy stuff Mosby Oct 2023 #49

Well, they seem to be fanatics who think to benefit by starting a sort of Mansonesque PatrickforB Oct 2023 #79

Um, if you read his earlier post (will quote below) he thoroughly condems Hamas.... electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #124

You're missing a couple key players Zeitghost Oct 2023 #88

So it's all about mone? Progressive dog Oct 2023 #103

No, I'm motivated by genuine change at the policy level that will ensure PatrickforB Oct 2023 #117

What policies would assure that evryone has enough? Progressive dog Oct 2023 #143

Pray tell... Abolishinist Oct 2023 #127

Capitalism has a lot to do with it. This morning on MSNBC, they had a person on PatrickforB Oct 2023 #132

... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #9

On another thread one person replied to another person that they had "lost their humanity ". Boomerproud Oct 2023 #11

Humanity CloudWatcher Oct 2023 #15

I've been staying in the Lounge. I refuse to be a part sinkingfeeling Oct 2023 #16

Yep. AnnaLee Oct 2023 #22

Ditto. stage left Oct 2023 #35

War enriches the wealthy. Lunabell Oct 2023 #17

What happened in Israel is not war Mysterian Oct 2023 #18

Isn't that why Palestine and Israel are where they are? Jay25 Oct 2023 #78

Before Hamas got into the picture, wnylib Oct 2023 #102

"A large number arrived after the European Holocaust, Jay25 Oct 2023 #135

I am the odd out. KentuckyWoman Oct 2023 #20

I blame Cheeto for this calamity peppertree Oct 2023 #21

without any foundation or shread of evidence ... stopdiggin Oct 2023 #51

It would have been limited if Israel had soldiers at the Gaza border womanofthehills Oct 2023 #91

That as well, yes. peppertree Oct 2023 #93

Someone please point out the many times that Israel offered a Two State solution. TeamProg Oct 2023 #25

Palestinians have always refused to negotiate with Israel. former9thward Oct 2023 #53

That's not what jimmy carter says questionseverything Oct 2023 #75

Jimmy Carter has been a great former president. former9thward Oct 2023 #86

I will accept jimmy carter's thoughts questionseverything Oct 2023 #90

I named names. former9thward Oct 2023 #92

Oslo accords Mossfern Oct 2023 #57

This was the last, best, chance we had. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #89

I was shocked that a majority of Palestinians DO NOT WANT a Two State solution!! TeamProg Oct 2023 #95

They would have to acknowledge mcar Oct 2023 #139

Yes I realize that, but still seems like the obvious conclusion/solution. TeamProg Oct 2023 #140

Not to be snarky here but MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #27

Like you I have tried moniss Oct 2023 #29

I've been making the same point on DU. This "fuse" wasn't just lit." It is a conflict that has been Martin68 Oct 2023 #40

1+ SunImp Oct 2023 #47

This needed to be said and I think is what many here are also feeling. yonder Oct 2023 #45

DU? Hell, it's impacted my home life. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #46

My husband and I have had similar discussions. TNNurse Oct 2023 #65

I would laugh except it's so f'ing sad. Biophilic Oct 2023 #48

Agreed. I have not blocked this many toxic people since sybylla Oct 2023 #52

John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory Kennah Oct 2023 #54

+1. If you know, you know. N/T Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #104

We largely ignore the civil wars of smaller nations... hunter Oct 2023 #55

This is why Israel / Palestinian discussions are normally banned here. They always get this way Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #56

There's been way too much ill will. cab67 Oct 2023 #59

Thank you for this post MustLoveBeagles Oct 2023 #80

I stay out of taking sides as it's fruitless. Aussie105 Oct 2023 #63

Bingo! Me too! nt Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #67

Thank you so much for this thoughtful post Hekate Oct 2023 #70

I have a choice to make: be hostile or compromise my integrity. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #71

Maybe I'm just naive jgmiller Oct 2023 #72

Cyrano, do you for some reason expect everybody on DU to hold only one opinion? Firestorm49 Oct 2023 #74

The OP did not say what you are saying he said obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #85

I agree. Haggard Celine Oct 2023 #99

Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2023 #96

The issue has always fractured DU. Posting in GD is usually prohibited Kaleva Oct 2023 #97

The newsworthy nature of the the Hamas attack seems to allow contextual posts. brooklynite Oct 2023 #114

True but regular debates about the issue is usually prohibited in GD Kaleva Oct 2023 #145

This Is Who We Are In 2023 tdot_steel Oct 2023 #101

I feel overwhelmed and heartbroken. yardwork Oct 2023 #105

Yes. Overwhelmed locally and globally. yonder Oct 2023 #119

What do you think of the wholesale murder of innocent Jewish people carried out totodeinhere Oct 2023 #106

I insist on ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #112

I find them ALL digusting Skittles Oct 2023 #113

Ignore is a wonderful tool. roamer65 Oct 2023 #115

Essential, imho. Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #141

I'm kind of in the ignorant category ecstatic Oct 2023 #116

Hamas NowISeetheLight Oct 2023 #118

War is the result of failed diplomacy. Xolodno Oct 2023 #123

No, ugliness here has been much much much worse. betsuni Oct 2023 #128

Just like old times tbh jfz9580m Oct 2023 #129

Good post. housecat Oct 2023 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author housecat Oct 2023 #134

This crap will continue to happen as long as fundamentalist religious nuts continue to condition SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #136

From what I can see from the modern history of the area anamnua Oct 2023 #142

I put a few people on ignore for the duration pecosbob Oct 2023 #147