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In reply to the discussion: All wars are brutal, ugly and inhumane. And it seems to me that that ugliness has impacted DU. [View all]Xolodno
(7,377 posts)As there is short sightless, someone trying to get a promotion by telling a leader what they want to hear, hubris, etc.
This war in Israel was preventable. The war in Ukraine was preventable. The civil war in Yemen was preventable. And so on, WW1 was preventable, but no one in Europe could see beyond their nose, had they, WW2 would not have happened. But activities designed to punish a foreign society only radicalizes them and makes the situation worse, and they have no control of what happens (another reason sanctions fail, but that's a different argument). The brutal regime in Iran survives because we give them the perfect excuse as to why they need to stay in power.
These things just don't happen because political leaders wake up one day and decide "I got nothing better to do, so lets start a war". It's years, sometimes several decades of bad simmering issues no one addresses, and one day, a spark ignites everything (the Russian Revolution started because of a bread riot, turns out there was plenty of bread, but two nobles were arguing over how much of a cut of profits they get and didn't allow much to be sold). And yet, everyone wants to blame things on the recent history of a few days or months. Despite people warning a decade or several decades ago, this was going to happen eventually.
It doesn't excuse Hamas, nor does is excuse Bibi whose policies for 15 years probably brought this to the forefront. Unfortunately, innocent people pay the price. The music festival revelers, the Gaza father or mother just trying to make a living, etc.
But we get propagandized with reports of atrocities committed by the brainwashed. And we, as a flaw of our humanity, suddenly paint the opposing side with a broad brush. Because its easy to give into hate and anger. If anything, many not "institutionalized" in Gaza would have loved to be at the music festival and probably couldn't care less about various politics. Remember, the Palestinian Authority opened casino's on Gaza's beaches that catered to Israeli's. The Hamas violent takeover ended that and Bibi liked keeping Hamas in power so he could say he didn't have a negotiating partner when it came to the two state solution. Now, its not surprisingly come back to bite him. Just like we overthrew a more secular Iran for an authoritarian who would do our bidding, didn't see the long term consequences.
And yes, there are some here on DU who have a blood lust or enjoy war mongering. Might get my post hidden for saying that. And many times I've wanted to leave. But think its important to keep a pulse on things.