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In reply to the discussion: All wars are brutal, ugly and inhumane. And it seems to me that that ugliness has impacted DU. [View all]housecat
(3,138 posts)133. Good post.
Correct me if I am wrong, but DUers can't possibly fully understand a surprise attack that has been simmering for decades. We are relying on soundbites and theories of everyone from Israeli soldiers to Palestinian families, from Middle East scholars to Middle East political figures. Who is to blame? Who has injured whom? It can't possibly be covered in a post, especially when emotion cannot be separated from fact, and facts cannot be separated from fiction.
We at DU discuss and try to make sense of an impossible situation, and we fail. We are a collection of anonymous DUers speaking to other anoynmous DUers, plus some who have just crashed the party. Opinions are valuable, but swipes at each other have no value at all. I hope the pot stirrers can stop stirring long enough to listen and try not to allow a volatile subject turn any of us against each other. We have more in common than we know, and yet today we focus on differences. How can we expect many abused, persecuted, and proud people from different cultures to behave with civility, when a group of (primarily) educated Americans with very similar politics has some of its members shouting at each other when they write.
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All wars are brutal, ugly and inhumane. And it seems to me that that ugliness has impacted DU. [View all]
Cyrano
Oct 2023
OP
Israel will never accept such a thing after what has happened for the past
totodeinhere
Oct 2023
#107
It's disgusting some out there are using this opportunity to attack Democratic Politicians they
SunImp
Oct 2023
#32
There's been a lot of hate here. It's reached the point I'm considering leaving.
Marius25
Oct 2023
#6
I am and have always been square in this boat. I hate what Hamas did because it is
PatrickforB
Oct 2023
#30
Correct me if I am wrong, but DUers can't possibly fully understand a surprise attack that has been
housecat
Oct 2023
#82
Its not so much specifically supporting Hamas. It is more like ignoring the atrocities
totodeinhere
Oct 2023
#109
I get the emotion and share it, but your constant accusation of fellow DUers of being "HATE-FILLED"
hlthe2b
Oct 2023
#41
I do agree this mess is really getting to me so I'll probably try to take a break from some of the
Marius25
Oct 2023
#84
Considering that at the past few days the deliberate heneious atrocity that Hamas did; that..
electric_blue68
Oct 2023
#144
Well, they seem to be fanatics who think to benefit by starting a sort of Mansonesque
PatrickforB
Oct 2023
#79
Um, if you read his earlier post (will quote below) he thoroughly condems Hamas....
electric_blue68
Oct 2023
#124
Capitalism has a lot to do with it. This morning on MSNBC, they had a person on
PatrickforB
Oct 2023
#132
On another thread one person replied to another person that they had "lost their humanity ".
Boomerproud
Oct 2023
#11
Someone please point out the many times that Israel offered a Two State solution.
TeamProg
Oct 2023
#25
I was shocked that a majority of Palestinians DO NOT WANT a Two State solution!!
TeamProg
Oct 2023
#95
I've been making the same point on DU. This "fuse" wasn't just lit." It is a conflict that has been
Martin68
Oct 2023
#40
This is why Israel / Palestinian discussions are normally banned here. They always get this way
Quixote1818
Oct 2023
#56
Cyrano, do you for some reason expect everybody on DU to hold only one opinion?
Firestorm49
Oct 2023
#74
The newsworthy nature of the the Hamas attack seems to allow contextual posts.
brooklynite
Oct 2023
#114
What do you think of the wholesale murder of innocent Jewish people carried out
totodeinhere
Oct 2023
#106
This crap will continue to happen as long as fundamentalist religious nuts continue to condition
SouthernDem4ever
Oct 2023
#136