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33. Seriously. The very same intel that failed to see Hamas coming. People act as if intel's DOUBT is

Wed Oct 11, 2023, 12:29 PM

Oct 2023

some confirmation. It's not confirmation. It's doubting.
But how credible are the doubts of intelligence re Iran, given its recent massive failure.

Hamas could never have done what it did to Israel without other state actors.
So if it wasn't Iran, but intel won't say who else, what good is anything coming from intel at this point.

Iran has a regional ideological axis to build around the destruction of Israel -- and eventually the West, as does Russia.

I'd rather err on the side that Iran were the planners, funders of this war. And that Russia & their trumptool here were the intel source.

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Breaking - US intelligence is reporting [View all] AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 OP

Wagner and ruzzia.... getagrip_already Oct 2023 #1

I don't see Saudi's supporting an Iranian proxy. Gore1FL Oct 2023 #2

I doubt S. Arabia: deal w Israel prob dead now. Putin benefits from chaos. tRump likes chaos too Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #19

I seriously doubt Saudi Arabia was involved GregariousGroundhog Oct 2023 #22

Really? - Bone-saw murderous MSB notwithstanding? n/t Backseat Driver Oct 2023 #47

Saudi Arabia and Hamas are enemies. former9thward Oct 2023 #50

but Israel played no part in that stopdiggin Oct 2023 #52

That's good, but Iran is still praising the attack so they're still evil Marius25 Oct 2023 #3

You trust US intel? Mosby Oct 2023 #4

Trump trusted Putin over US Intel. keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #6

Good for Trump. Mosby Oct 2023 #7

But then - perhaps it does peppertree Oct 2023 #21

Probably the same people who ferreted away the kids at sandy hook. Mosby Oct 2023 #27

A former criminal traitor POTUS selling US military secrets and intelligence. hadEnuf Oct 2023 #31

Hear, hear peppertree Oct 2023 #32

do you have a source for this? stopdiggin Oct 2023 #56

Duh. Trump told us to inject bleach housecat Oct 2023 #29

What do you mean "what changed"? AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #14

Seriously. The very same intel that failed to see Hamas coming. People act as if intel's DOUBT is ancianita Oct 2023 #33

a good deal more than some goombah on the internet ... -(nt)- stopdiggin Oct 2023 #54

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2023 #74

There is direct and there is indirect. blm Oct 2023 #5

'No Direct Involvement' Admits Of Many Meanings, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #8

Exactly... PCIntern Oct 2023 #13

If nothing else.. kwolf68 Oct 2023 #17

+100 ancianita Oct 2023 #42

Why are you assuming my gender? AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #16

Magistrate calls everyone "sir." shrike3 Oct 2023 #34

Ya that's pretty unacceptable in the year 2023 AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #37

Hopefully, he'll be mindful. shrike3 Oct 2023 #45

Fingers crossed 🤞 AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #46

The Magistrate has been posting here for more than 20 years. Mosby Oct 2023 #55

No one on here has a right to misgender anyone, no matter how long they have been postying obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #58

yah. little intent to offend. and really stopdiggin Oct 2023 #65

You forgot inthewind21 Oct 2023 #69

Excuse me AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #71

OK, so what are your pronouns? Mosby Oct 2023 #76

Interesting Lurker Deluxe Oct 2023 #39

Not me. progressoid Oct 2023 #61

I guess that's the key, then. shrike3 Oct 2023 #73

Out of morbid curiosity Lurker Deluxe Oct 2023 #38

And, I believe, the U.S. military addresses female officers as Sir OnlinePoker Oct 2023 #63

"I"? You also say you're 30 people, in your profile muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #78

Agreed Lithos Oct 2023 #41

I am somewhat surprised but sarisataka Oct 2023 #9

i want to know where they trained. mopinko Oct 2023 #10

Since when does US intelligence make reports to the public? lindysalsagal Oct 2023 #11

Was the Slobfather involved malaise Oct 2023 #12

Maybe Jack Smith does know who flamingdem Oct 2023 #15

Prob only in passing secrets if at all, but tRump benefits if Biden's SArabia/Israel peace deal fail Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #23

No Regional Wider War! McKim Oct 2023 #18

Was CNN the only one to report this? Escurumbele Oct 2023 #20

No there's a story on Politico too AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #49

No absolute statements. Torchlight Oct 2023 #24

Good idea to say that Iran is not involved, gab13by13 Oct 2023 #25

Thought the same thing... at least not yet. More conclusive proof liberalla Oct 2023 #28

Malcolm Nance just on the Stephanie Miller Show.... rubbersole Oct 2023 #26

Old school actually Kaleva Oct 2023 #35

Is Malcom Nance referring to this com-system? Backseat Driver Oct 2023 #66

Hamas leaders operate out of several countries: Turkey, Qatar, Syria, Iran IronLionZion Oct 2023 #30

I view Ruzzia as blue-wave Oct 2023 #36

American war hawks feathers plucked! Those birds can't handle the truth of...no more violence?? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #40

We're through the looking glass here, people. dchill Oct 2023 #43

I'm sure the GQP will decline this analysis ... aggiesal Oct 2023 #44

But they are glad that it happened Polybius Oct 2023 #48

What does no "Direct" Iranian Involvement mean? former9thward Oct 2023 #51

I suspect... cab67 Oct 2023 #57

I think that is the interpretation US policy makers want to have out there. former9thward Oct 2023 #64

and if you read the actual statement stopdiggin Oct 2023 #68

Mohammed Deif Mosby Oct 2023 #53

The OP is literally reporting what CNN said obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #59

Thank you AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #77

Hope that's correct. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #60

This won't stop the RW politicians and media from pushing the IRAN angle though. progressoid Oct 2023 #62

So who did help them plan and support this attack? keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #67

They've been practicing a long time. SYFROYH Oct 2023 #72

This Is Nothing More Than A Gut Feeling DallasNE Oct 2023 #70

Need to know confidence rate of what US intel is reporting, high? low? medium? or DK uponit7771 Oct 2023 #75

Russia bdamomma Oct 2023 #79