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hlthe2b

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36. Kindly read my limited history/significance of GC upstream. It is not something to be flippant about

Wed Oct 11, 2023, 05:11 PM

Oct 2023

Post #25.

As I point out, many of us would not be here but for our grandfathers/great-grandfathers and for some, fathers having survived with even the most minimal care afforded as POWs in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam.

Who is going to "force" Israel? That ( "force" ) is a term to be used for renegade nations, not one that has been part of the International community and a signatory to the Geneva Conventions since 1951. They will need their International allies and the continued support of their closest allies. That isn't force, but that can be quite an effective influence--just as with the US working behind the scenes to find an evacuation mechanism/route for Palestinian civilians through Egypt and asserting their stance against shutting off of food and water (and power to hospitals) without doing so.

And as DFW points out in post#26, it can carry incredible benefits to the future of Israel and the potential for any peaceful coexistence in the future--long after a decimated Hamas (hopefully) recedes into the dustbin of history and is no longer a factor.

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Israel hospitals instructed not to treat captured Hamas who have piled up in the public hospital sy [View all] Demovictory9 Oct 2023 OP

If the past is any reflection of the current situation, the Israeli physicians will not do that. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #1

I tend to agree, but they must not be put in this position. hlthe2b Oct 2023 #13

you're right JohnSJ Oct 2023 #15

That's medically unethical. Oneironaut Oct 2023 #2

Yeah. Thing is, it's a real shooting war not a MASH episode BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #18

No. it is not "if you feel like it" but international convention to which Israel has been signatory hlthe2b Oct 2023 #25

The rules of war require that prisoners be treated. Chainfire Oct 2023 #24

I can understand prioritizing injured Israelis over enemy combatants (although that violates medical hlthe2b Oct 2023 #3

There are hospitals in Gaza. Mosby Oct 2023 #5

Hospitals in Gaza with no power soon but regardless, this refers to combatants in ISRAEL hlthe2b Oct 2023 #7

Israel should create POW camps then Mosby Oct 2023 #9

The issue is treating versus not treating. Israel has an obligation to treat. hlthe2b Oct 2023 #10

The rights extended to prisoners of war do not cover terrorists. Aristus Oct 2023 #14

Not true. And in fact, Israel has declared war against Hamas so that does make them hlthe2b Oct 2023 #16

All right. Thanks! Aristus Oct 2023 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Marius25 Oct 2023 #34

so treat the enemy so they can turn around and kill you? orleans Oct 2023 #4

No. That is the Geneva Conventions of which Israel is a signatory hlthe2b Oct 2023 #8

Both ethics and international treaties can be inconvenient sometimes n/t markpkessinger Oct 2023 #19

Is Israel a sovereign nation or not? obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #22

Who's going to force them? DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2023 #31

Kindly read my limited history/significance of GC upstream. It is not something to be flippant about hlthe2b Oct 2023 #36

That is not right. It goes against the Physicians Oath. irisblue Oct 2023 #6

And teh Geneva Convention obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #21

They should NOT be in the same hospitals as Israelis Arazi Oct 2023 #11

Not the issue. Israeli government is telling physicians they are not to treat.. hlthe2b Oct 2023 #12

This is against the Geneva Convention obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #20

Obeying this instruction would be wrong. sarisataka Oct 2023 #23

It's Interesting, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #27

I do question the "overwhelming" part sarisataka Oct 2023 #28

I Agree It's A Wrongheaded Directive, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #29

From my experience in Iraq DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2023 #39

Been there, done that sarisataka Oct 2023 #40

I have love/hate thing with mine lol DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2023 #41

A very unfortunate order to give DFW Oct 2023 #26

That happened here in the US with POW camps during WWII obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #30

Just my point, thanks! DFW Oct 2023 #35

So...a request??...not an order, not an instruction....?? Also against doctors oath... Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #32

I know! Send them to America! AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #33

I can them putting Israelis first in line but Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #37

No Hippocratic Oath there? Bayard Oct 2023 #38