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Silent3

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24. Where do you draw the line between collective punishment and collateral damage?

Thu Oct 12, 2023, 01:17 AM

Oct 2023

Collateral damage is regrettable, and all efforts should be made to keep collateral damage to a minimum, but collateral damage is NOT a war crime.

Hamas has deliberately chosen to fight in a way that makes collateral damage almost completely unavoidable. Israel can't simply give up on defending themselves because of that.

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Collective Punishment is a war crime (Red Cross) [View all] TomDaisy Oct 2023 OP

Yeah why don't those Israelis just TheProle Oct 2023 #1

Or they can just kill all the uniformed soldiers and marybourg Oct 2023 #4

+1 orangecrush Oct 2023 #6

bingo Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #9

Someone should write a sternly worded letter to Hamas about this Sympthsical Oct 2023 #2

That'll show em. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #3

Are the full throated supporters of Israel ready to choke this The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #5

Are you including the President in that question? Sympthsical Oct 2023 #7

I don't answer questions. Sorry. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #10

Just Ask Them, Eh? The Magistrate Oct 2023 #11

Pffftttt The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #12

Had A Two Year Old Do Something Similar Once The Magistrate Oct 2023 #14

Good for you! The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #15

I Expect You'll Bore Me Soon Enough The Magistrate Oct 2023 #19

They already did, I suspect... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #23

Just ask them and say " Pffftttt' Cha Oct 2023 #25

Questions for everyone else (your post #5) but not for you? Okay, we see. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #41

Neither are Israel or the United States. That's pathetic. OrangeJoe Oct 2023 #33

Yeah Calculating Oct 2023 #18

Thank You For Putting This Up, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #8

K&R DBoon Oct 2023 #13

yep TomDaisy Oct 2023 #16

Biden does but someone also must pay for that flamingdem Oct 2023 #17

It Certainly Does Help To See What It Actually Is, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #21

The obvious purpose of this post is to accuse Israel of imposing collective punishment. Not so fast. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #20

It Can Be Reasonably Argued, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #22

Indeed it could be argued, and it has been. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #29

No One Is Going To Enforce International Law Here, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #30

Israel announces 'complete siege' of Gaza, cutting its electricity, food, water, and fuel TomDaisy Oct 2023 #26

I can find no references to international laws that govern the transfer of resources Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #34

I found a reference under "collective punishment" TomDaisy Oct 2023 #35

Does it have to do with transfering resources between belligerent parties? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #44

it has to do with punishing innocent children TomDaisy Oct 2023 #46

So what exatcly does one party not transferring resources to another party constitute Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #47

since they have the power to do this treestar Oct 2023 #48

Where do you draw the line between collective punishment and collateral damage? Silent3 Oct 2023 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author TomDaisy Oct 2023 #27

What the Butchers of HAMAS Did Is A WAR CRIME. Cha Oct 2023 #28

That description fits Hamas's actions perfectly. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #31

To date there is no evidence that Israel is imposing collective Tomconroy Oct 2023 #32

other than cutting off all water, power, fuel and food to Gaza TomDaisy Oct 2023 #36

Such a tactic is for now a humane way to put Tomconroy Oct 2023 #37

Regarding government values - Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza. TomDaisy Oct 2023 #40

Egypt actually controls a fair amount of that border. Tomconroy Oct 2023 #43

Cut off how? It's entirely relevant FBaggins Oct 2023 #45

War crimes only matter for some countries malaise Oct 2023 #38

Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #39

Sherman's march to the sea could then be considered a war crime Kaleva Oct 2023 #42