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RockRaven

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36. I didn't suggest that in the slightest.

Thu Oct 12, 2023, 01:28 AM

Oct 2023

There are quite a lot of people in Gaza who are not Hamas, and they are not necessary monolithic. Perhaps there are opportunities available, or perhaps opportunities to be squandered and lost, in those quarters. Starting with the model of them being "one side" seems like a waste.

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I saw an IDF soldier on PBS tonight. He said the plan is [View all] scipan Oct 2023 OP

Biden reminded all parties about the rules of war today flamingdem Oct 2023 #1

Unfortunately no matter what anyone says, there are no rules in war, or there wouldn't be war JohnSJ Oct 2023 #2

I agree. Israel will not allow an unfortunate few to constrain their plan to deal with Hamas and OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #5

cue the genocide ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #10

Not necessarilly. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #17

Disagree. Even thousands of years ago, a common rule/ scipan Oct 2023 #9

There are 'rules in war'--- but mostly followed DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #12

Yes. Maybe by the sea, using amphibious vehicles (I think one scipan Oct 2023 #3

Rules of war, such as they are, apply to regular uniformed armies, marybourg Oct 2023 #6

They Certainly Do, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2023 #26

Disagree and also state that there is no current occupation, marybourg Oct 2023 #30

Refering To The Entire Administration of Territories Over-Run In The '67, Ma'am The Magistrate Oct 2023 #38

I didn't say that international humanitarian law has nothing to say marybourg Oct 2023 #42

Egypt wants no part of this. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #43

Killing begets killing, but somehow more killing is supposedly the appropriate response which RockRaven Oct 2023 #4

Fact of life here on planet Earth in 2023. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #7

It doesn't have to be this way. It's the choice of both sides. People in South Africa and Belfast ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #13

Who is this "Both Sides"? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #24

Not all Palestinians are part of the terrorist group known as Hamas ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #44

Maybe you should do some research. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #48

But Palestinians do not compromise. Their culture seemingly marybourg Oct 2023 #25

Their culture? RockRaven Oct 2023 #28

Yes, the same culture that keeps their women behind doors marybourg Oct 2023 #33

So the answer is? marybourg Oct 2023 #8

Israel turning the other cheek, apparently. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #11

Ahh, I hadn't considered that. marybourg Oct 2023 #15

I don't consider it an appropriate response myself. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #19

That IS what Jesus said... but Jesus was 'WOKE'... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #18

I agree. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #31

If anyone claims to have one, the onus is on them to prove it. RockRaven Oct 2023 #20

If we're going to tell people they don't deserve to criticize policy without a "better idea"... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2023 #23

Traditional war: one side surrenders or else gets wiped out scipan Oct 2023 #14

Biden's comments are aimed towards Israel imo flamingdem Oct 2023 #21

I am so with you emotionally scipan Oct 2023 #34

We'll see where interests coincide flamingdem Oct 2023 #37

I hope that's possible. scipan Oct 2023 #41

Thanks for the reference. It makes some basic sense. scipan Oct 2023 #46

this Calculating Oct 2023 #22

Perhaps abandoning the reductive "one side/other side" model would expand the choices RockRaven Oct 2023 #32

Wise. But in practice? I don't think it's possible to negotiate with Hamas. scipan Oct 2023 #35

I didn't suggest that in the slightest. RockRaven Oct 2023 #36

Sorry if I misunderstood. I agree with you. But... scipan Oct 2023 #39

Nothing Calculating Oct 2023 #16

Did you know that Hamas is in several countries? scipan Oct 2023 #27

I wouldn't think any IDF person would Cha Oct 2023 #29

In the absence of anything better, I find myself down with scipan Oct 2023 #40

The Israelis are absolutely pummeling Gaza in the early morning. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #45

Yay for the planet earth PlutosHeart Oct 2023 #47

It's Hamas's fault Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #49