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51. A good post earlier on DU has Malcolm Nance analyzing intercepted Hamas sigint.

Wed Oct 18, 2023, 09:43 AM

Oct 2023

The conclusion is that it was a Hamas misfire due to faulty weapons, coming from near the hospital but not aimed at it. And the casualty count has not yet been verified, so it's still not clear what really happened.

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Who reflexively believes HAMAS? [View all] boston bean Oct 2023 OP

Members of the squad AkFemDem Oct 2023 #1

All of them? Evidence? nt redqueen Oct 2023 #67

I am seeing correction in the media this morning... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #2

It is outrageous. boston bean Oct 2023 #4

Looking at the visuals, IF there were 50 people in each ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2023 #68

NPR this morning Johnny2X2X Oct 2023 #29

Shameful. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #31

Unless there are other dmage from that parking lot Johnny2X2X Oct 2023 #37

Yeah Richard58 Oct 2023 #63

Nope. But that's based on actual evidence. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #70

Plus Biden states our own defense department has confirmed it did not boston bean Oct 2023 #81

"Based on what I've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you" Kennah Oct 2023 #96

You are late with your news. Our defense dept has confirmed with our own intelligence. boston bean Oct 2023 #111

Link? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #132

Not your link lackey. It's posted right here on DU. boston bean Oct 2023 #140

I am not buying HAMAS propaganda Kennah Oct 2023 #147

Link? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #131

Not your link lackey. It's posted right here on DU. boston bean Oct 2023 #141

I agree. Hamas will exaggerate & lie to inflame hatred of Israel. CaptainTruth Oct 2023 #101

I think part of the problem is that, liberalhistorian Oct 2023 #106

"My advice to myself and others is to hold your opinion until the facts are out." walkingman Oct 2023 #3

The facts are out there. People get to decide what they mean I guess regardless. boston bean Oct 2023 #6

The facts aren't 'there'. Voltaire2 Oct 2023 #80

Biden has confirmed it was not Israel per our defense dept. boston bean Oct 2023 #83

Link? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #135

I am not a link lackey. It is common knowledge. You can find it if you look. boston bean Oct 2023 #137

I know a lot of you don't like the program, but BonnieJW Oct 2023 #33

Not sure videos are of ACTUAL rocket unc70 Oct 2023 #56

There's one video I saw last night I believe to be of the incident. CaptainTruth Oct 2023 #86

That is what I saw last night as well. But was holding off boston bean Oct 2023 #87

The timeline of that video seems correct, as well. CaptainTruth Oct 2023 #108

Not unreasonable.... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #76

They obviously were launching rocket attacks towards Israel from a boston bean Oct 2023 #119

Many on this site. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #5

Ah yeah. I am trying to be gracious. boston bean Oct 2023 #9

I don't believe anything AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #7

Same here claudette Oct 2023 #12

Same. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #27

What independent third party? radical noodle Oct 2023 #74

United Nations monitors I'm good with AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #75

Thanks! n/t radical noodle Oct 2023 #89

You're welcome 😁 AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #99

By the time the UN could inspect the site... EX500rider Oct 2023 #148

Agreed, I wait for the UN. haele Oct 2023 #118

The satellite photos if not already given to the media.......................... Lovie777 Oct 2023 #8

Our "mainstream media" is made up of: harumph Oct 2023 #10

No one I know claudette Oct 2023 #11

Were you off DU and the news last night? boston bean Oct 2023 #14

Have you seen this? claudette Oct 2023 #20

Last night news. boston bean Oct 2023 #21

Who put it claudette Oct 2023 #22

Put what out wher boston bean Oct 2023 #23

"Who" is Israel. "It" is video/analysis of bombing of hospital in Gaza. "Out there" is a release to AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2023 #60

Ask yourself ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #105

It's really claudette Oct 2023 #109

Why wouldn't ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #114

Exactly claudette Oct 2023 #116

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #134

They didn't do it on purpose, as far as I can see. It was an accident by a faulty rocket Bev54 Oct 2023 #154

It's still being said this morning mcar Oct 2023 #98

Believes Anything Hamas Says ? musclecar6 Oct 2023 #13

Many it would seem. boston bean Oct 2023 #15

yeah, you'd think.. I'm seeing it as I've scrolled down Cha Oct 2023 #146

Nazis and Jew-haters. Hellbound Hellhound Oct 2023 #16

soooooo you think nutty yahoo is honest?????????? trump wants you on his fundraising list dembotoz Oct 2023 #17

I have no love for authoritarians. However, I do like and believe facts. boston bean Oct 2023 #18

nutty yahoo face reckoning????? dembotoz Oct 2023 #102

Uh yeah. He will. boston bean Oct 2023 #124

He absolutely will Mossfern Oct 2023 #130

HAMAS lost all credibility when they launched the terrorist attack Buckeyeblue Oct 2023 #19

I don't think they had credibility to begin with AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #49

College liberals elias7 Oct 2023 #24

Don't confuse.... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #26

Self determination Johnny2X2X Oct 2023 #35

Clearly, Hamas has to go. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #65

Agree Johnny2X2X Oct 2023 #73

Sounds like a common problem SpankMe Oct 2023 #113

NIcely stated Johnny2X2X Oct 2023 #125

And amazingly none of those other Arab nations AkFemDem Oct 2023 #30

That's what I learned was the whole problem from the start elias7 Oct 2023 #145

Actually, it might be good to go back to the history books Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #150

What are "their causes"? N/T Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #149

"I don't think younger folks have the same appreciation of history as I do" Act_of_Reparation Oct 2023 #100

Yes, I suppose it is elias7 Oct 2023 #143

I don't reflexively believe anyone about anything at wartime, especially in the ME ms liberty Oct 2023 #25

Thank you. Yes, this story came to mind for me as well. Worth bearing in mind, for sure. TheRickles Oct 2023 #41

I'm sick of the age old conflict itself. roamer65 Oct 2023 #28

I am with you. I have been protesting war since I was 9 years old. cayugafalls Oct 2023 #39

+1 roamer65 Oct 2023 #40

I'll agree to that for sure. RocRizzo55 Oct 2023 #43

The facts are out, rocorizzo. boston bean Oct 2023 #48

OK then RocRizzo55 Oct 2023 #59

That is a cop out. boston bean Oct 2023 #61

No, it is not. RocRizzo55 Oct 2023 #66

Ok, so you think president Biden is a liar. I don't. boston bean Oct 2023 #78

You don't listen, do you? RocRizzo55 Oct 2023 #104

I listen quite clearly. boston bean Oct 2023 #112

No you are trolling. RocRizzo55 Oct 2023 #128

He is capable of being mis-informed. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #151

And Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. crim son Oct 2023 #71

That was neocons and bush. President Biden has confirmed our own defense dept boston bean Oct 2023 #79

Exactly. And saw preteens interviewed from both sides and they Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2023 #54

Same, they're not even trying any humanitarian peaceful options IronLionZion Oct 2023 #55

As late as this morning, I saw tv news still reporting 500 casualties. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #32

The first casualty in war is the truth. Ray Bruns Oct 2023 #34

An expert's view Nasruddin Oct 2023 #93

I am shocked anyone on this site or in the media pinkstarburst Oct 2023 #36

NO Way do I believe Hamas! 👎 nt Raine Oct 2023 #38

It could easily have been the other group there, Islamic Jihad IronLionZion Oct 2023 #42

HAMAS has been caught red handed as to be involved on signint. boston bean Oct 2023 #45

Do you have a source for that? IronLionZion Oct 2023 #47

It's out there. I am not obligated to find it for you. boston bean Oct 2023 #52

Malcolm Nance NickB79 Oct 2023 #85

Your link explicitly accuses Islamic Jihad IronLionZion Oct 2023 #88

The sigint was between two Hamas terrorists. boston bean Oct 2023 #90

I want the truth IronLionZion Oct 2023 #94

You have it. You just can't admit it. boston bean Oct 2023 #110

It exonerates the IDF NickB79 Oct 2023 #97

Agreed, and Israel Defense Forces officially accuses Islamic Jihad IronLionZion Oct 2023 #126

Look around you nt sarisataka Oct 2023 #44

I do. boston bean Oct 2023 #46

. sarisataka Oct 2023 #50

A good post earlier on DU has Malcolm Nance analyzing intercepted Hamas sigint. TheRickles Oct 2023 #51

Glad you are here. sellitman Oct 2023 #53

Absolutely. I heard speculation this morning that it was a failed Islamic Jihad rocket. PatrickforB Oct 2023 #57

Indeed Patton French Oct 2023 #58

Iran regime is Hamas and Hezbollah daddy! mymomwasright Oct 2023 #62

That's true but Richard58 Oct 2023 #64

+1 2naSalit Oct 2023 #69

Do you believe Biden. Or is he not to be trusted either? boston bean Oct 2023 #82

Biden confirmed the beheaded babies story just last week. Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #115

Good. The babies heads were blown off. Not cut off with a machete. boston bean Oct 2023 #117

Wow. (nt) Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #121

I know. Wow. It all happened. boston bean Oct 2023 #122

Looks like you're having a hard time. Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #127

Back atcha! boston bean Oct 2023 #139

Another Gaza Hospital Hit by Israeli Strike; Four Dead, 40 Hurt Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #152

Reputations are fragile Nasruddin Oct 2023 #92

The media plays a huge part in ensuring the hoi polloi stay squabbling nt redqueen Oct 2023 #72

I don't understand why the media can't say... Bluethroughu Oct 2023 #77

They want the outrage engagement redqueen Oct 2023 #133

I think Pres Biden's response was responsible. liberalmuse Oct 2023 #84

OTM user's guide to breaking news Nasruddin Oct 2023 #91

It is disgraceful mcar Oct 2023 #95

The crater is way to small to be from any IDF 500 or 1000lb bomb EX500rider Oct 2023 #103

And too little damage to imply hundreds dead NickB79 Oct 2023 #107

That crater looks like a Chicago pothole after a long winter. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #120

Video this morning shows only damage to cars in parking area. CaptainTruth Oct 2023 #123

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2023 #129

Apparently, MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #136

I don't need to prove a fact. You should do your research if you don't believe a fact. boston bean Oct 2023 #138

Replace Hamas with Al Qaeda or ISIS in this context and it does look stupid-- Wingus Dingus Oct 2023 #142

Sen Fetterman & Malcom Nance Cha Oct 2023 #144

The reporting I've seen said it was Palestinian Islamic Jihad, not Hamas... RockRaven Oct 2023 #153

I don't believe anyone, bring proof or STFU krawhitham Oct 2023 #155

I don't reflexively believe anyone claiming anything without evidence. IronLionZion Oct 2023 #156

Still trying some way to deflect from the facts, I see. boston bean Oct 2023 #157

Quite the opposite IronLionZion Oct 2023 #158

LOL. boston bean Oct 2023 #159

Exactly IronLionZion Oct 2023 #160

Exactly. boston bean Oct 2023 #161