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Duncan Grant

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23. For your edification:
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 04:02 PM
Oct 2023
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/24/entertainment/trans-comics-dave-chappelle-netflix-cec/index.html

… So when she read what Dave Chappelle, a comedian she once admired for his searing social commentary, said about trans women – about their genitalia, their “knuckles and Adam’s apples,” their insistence on being recognized and respected – in his latest Netflix special, she felt disappointed and defeated.

… “I know [Chappelle] says he wasn’t punching down – he’s absolutely punching down,” McBride told CNN. “When you’re just taking this mean position against a minority, no matter who the minority is or who you are, it just comes off as wrong.”

… CNN spoke with four trans comedians about what they think Chappelle got wrong in “The Closer.” Some said they had considered Chappelle a comedy hero. But three of the comedians said that, by targeting trans people – trans women, mostly – and adopting the language of opponents of trans rights, his comedy has mutated into something meaner, more dated and less impactful. (CNN has reached out to a representative for Chappelle and is waiting to hear back.)

… At several points, he referred to trans people as “transgenders,” a term GLAAD advises should not be used in its noun form – only as an adjective. He said he was “on team TERF,” which describes people who identify as feminists, but argue that trans identities are not valid.



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"Two wrongs don't make a right" is a playground platitude. Pretty irrelevant and irresponsible marybourg Oct 2023 #1
It's also a basic truth. One of those that hold civilization to a standard. jaxexpat Oct 2023 #29
What's the right response then? NotVeryImportant Oct 2023 #36
Taking out the terrorists. marybourg Oct 2023 #42
If the summary is to be believed, criticizing the infliction of death and suffering RockRaven Oct 2023 #2
Zero interest in any artist getting up on a soapbox to tell me anything. Arthur_Frain Oct 2023 #26
if u bought a ticket to chapelle and didnt expect a soap box, that's on u. mopinko Oct 2023 #32
Didn't. Arthur_Frain Oct 2023 #34
Some comedians believe in offending everyone. usonian Oct 2023 #3
Dave Chappelle. Where can I cash in my points? jaxexpat Oct 2023 #30
I don't know if he said that, but it's likely usonian Oct 2023 #35
Meanwhile, thanks for all the fish. jaxexpat Oct 2023 #43
Dave Chappelle is a bit of a moron - so you have to start out with that stopdiggin Oct 2023 #4
I respect Chappelle. H2O Man Oct 2023 #5
thank you CatWoman Oct 2023 #7
Sure thing! H2O Man Oct 2023 #20
You respect a TERF? vercetti2021 Oct 2023 #8
he is very trans phobic BlueWaveNeverEnd Oct 2023 #9
I don't like the term TERF elias7 Oct 2023 #12
Understand this vercetti2021 Oct 2023 #13
No, the term is not "shit they labeled themselves as". nt redqueen Oct 2023 #18
. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #19
For another, more inclusive, point of view: Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #22
I respect him for that. I like him, too. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2023 #11
Its one thing to poke fun at people vercetti2021 Oct 2023 #14
Right. H2O Man Oct 2023 #25
For your edification: Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #23
You have misused H2O Man Oct 2023 #24
I've just learned so much about you. Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #27
You are welcome! H2O Man Oct 2023 #38
The pleasure was all mine! Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #40
I respectfully disagree. H2O Man Oct 2023 #41
agree. mopinko Oct 2023 #33
Thanks. H2O Man Oct 2023 #39
Chappelle says he is Muslim. Frasier Balzov Oct 2023 #6
He can be Muslim and his perspective be objectively NOT from a Muslim one uponit7771 Oct 2023 #10
How is his perspective not Muslim ? It's similar to most Muslims . JI7 Oct 2023 #15
I'm a Chappelle fan AkFemDem Oct 2023 #28
I recuse myself DFW Oct 2023 #16
What was said in the summary makes sense to me. flying rabbit Oct 2023 #17
I still laugh when Chapelle brought elon musk up on stage in SF and everyone booed him! kimbutgar Oct 2023 #21
Same! Initech Oct 2023 #31
Criticism is deserved on all those sides. NotVeryImportant Oct 2023 #37
too many snowflakes in the World Snooper9 Oct 2023 #44
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