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24. I believe that to fully understand the issues faced today

Mon Oct 23, 2023, 11:04 PM

Oct 2023

We must look to the post WW1 timeframe to establish the root cause of the conflict. Specifically the Palestine Mandate. I believe the events that unfolded prior to and after this are paramount to understanding motivations on both sides of the issue today.

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My philosophical thoughts on the posts on Israel. Might need a second read. [View all] cachukis Oct 2023 OP

"Israel was thrust upon us"? brooklynite Oct 2023 #1

Who decided to set up the state? And why? The Jewish cachukis Oct 2023 #2

Who decided to set it up? The UN and the British. brooklynite Oct 2023 #3

The people of that area who were basically stateless cachukis Oct 2023 #5

Nobody was made "stateless" by Israel brooklynite Oct 2023 #9

Are you referring to the British Mandate post WW1 radicalleft Oct 2023 #13

Post WW2 brooklynite Oct 2023 #14

I believe that to fully understand the issues faced today radicalleft Oct 2023 #24

The Palestine mandate controlled a Palestine that was occupied by Arabs and Jews... brooklynite Oct 2023 #30

+++ JohnSJ Oct 2023 #36

Does it matter? Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #19

Nor was there a "state" of Israel radicalleft Oct 2023 #26

You're missing it. They were stateless. Suddenly the were cachukis Oct 2023 #15

The UN voted on a partition into a Jewish State and a Palestinian one question everything Oct 2023 #55

The sides were pushing each other from here to there moniss Oct 2023 #52

Wait.... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #18

From what I read. I can handle a correction. cachukis Oct 2023 #25

Take a look at this... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #29

I stand corrected. I was misinformed on cachukis Oct 2023 #32

At the time of the Palestine Mandate there were only about 10,000 Jews radicalleft Oct 2023 #27

Thanks. cachukis Oct 2023 #33

A Palestinian State was also "thrust upon them"... brooklynite Oct 2023 #21

No argument. They were totally out of their league cachukis Oct 2023 #23

Diaspora was since Abraham? Ever hears of King David? question everything Oct 2023 #53

I have read a lot on the subject and cachukis Oct 2023 #58

I don't understand a word of this, but thank you for posting n/t leftstreet Oct 2023 #4

lol MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #7

Please re read, slowly. cachukis Oct 2023 #8

One side wants a 2-State solution and MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #6

Yitzhak Rabin if he were still alive radicalleft Oct 2023 #10

Please tell me why? cachukis Oct 2023 #16

He was assasinted by radicalleft Oct 2023 #28

I know he was assassinated. But why would he disagree? cachukis Oct 2023 #35

There are factions radicalleft Oct 2023 #37

Yes. Thanks. The Promised Land perspective. cachukis Oct 2023 #41

No, there were winners and losers from those wars as there are from all wars, and the JohnSJ Oct 2023 #43

Yes. Victors divvy up the spoils. Turkey seems to cachukis Oct 2023 #44

My post is to the DU society. We are watching cachukis Oct 2023 #11

Almost 100% agree radicalleft Oct 2023 #12

That is after WWI and yet it still happened. cachukis Oct 2023 #17

I think it was an issue of politcal manipulation radicalleft Oct 2023 #31

Why don't you take the time to read? question everything Oct 2023 #56

"Israel was thrust upon us". Speak for your fucking self. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #20

Did Israel show up of its own accord? cachukis Oct 2023 #22

Serious question... radicalleft Oct 2023 #34

My sense is no. But guilt, philanthropy, politics and who knows what cachukis Oct 2023 #39

+++. I can almost hear some of my best friends are Jews JohnSJ Oct 2023 #38

Actually, part of my early teens was spent with many cachukis Oct 2023 #40

When I was growing up I was told by my Catholic friends JohnSJ Oct 2023 #45

I was taught that by some of my teachers. cachukis Oct 2023 #46

Vatican 2 changed all that, except for Mel Gibson JohnSJ Oct 2023 #49

Didn't the powers that be dictate what happened after the wars. cachukis Oct 2023 #42

The Ottoman Empire controlled that area until after WWI JohnSJ Oct 2023 #47

Yes. I am a retired teacher who taught about the cachukis Oct 2023 #48

From my perspective unless they bring back a two state solution, JohnSJ Oct 2023 #50

Could be right. cachukis Oct 2023 #51

Philosophical! My fourth grade teacher. betsuni Oct 2023 #54

You must have wisdom beyond mine. I look forward cachukis Oct 2023 #59

What would you have done with the stateles Holocaust survivors that no country in the world wanted AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #57

Wow. I admit i have been responding to the nitpickers cachukis Oct 2023 #60

You completely sidestepped my original question: What would you have done with stateless Holocaust survivors AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #65

I have stated on several occassions that cachukis Oct 2023 #66

There have been many Arab leaders radicalleft Oct 2023 #61

Your perspective displays big picture thinking. cachukis Oct 2023 #62

Very nice to have interacted with you as well radicalleft Oct 2023 #63

Were still not full citizens because they weren't muslim. AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #64