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Irish_Dem

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13. About one in five of all serial killers were psychotic at the time of their crimes.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 11:43 AM
Oct 2023

So they could plan ahead and elude the police.

A person can be psychotic but legally sane.
Knows right from wrong. And understands the nature of his act.
A person can be very seriously disturbed but not meet the definition of legal insanity.

Here in the Lewiston case, we have a paranoid schizophrenic, with active auditory
hallucinations, perhaps command hallucinations telling him to kill people.
Triggered by a rejection from his girlfriend. So he's very angry and wants revenge.
With extensive military and weapon training.

This is a very dangerous guy. I am sure the FBI has discussed this with LE.

Obviously very seriously disturbed but able to plan the mass shooting and able
to make an adequate escape plan. In large part this is probably a function of his
previous status as highly trained military personnel.

So you can see that even in his disturbance he is able to access that training in his history.
So even in his acute psychotic state he is able to fall back on his over learned behavior.

Of course we don't really know until the psychologists go in and interview him, talk to him and
find out exactly what his mental status is.

That is if he emerges alive. He is quite dangerous and law enforcement needs to be very careful.

Frankly I don't know if he will to be taken alive. If he is taken alive he's very very lucky.

We have a psychotic perpetrator, who probably does not want to be taken alive.
And we have swat teams who understand the shooter is quite dangerous and they don't
want to get killed so their adrenaline is flowing. So you can see how this might end.

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I just checked. Lockdown still in place. press conference niyad Oct 2023 #1
Thank you Marthe48 Oct 2023 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2023 #8
??? niyad Oct 2023 #10
yes. at the press briefing they confirmed its still the case.nt. drray23 Oct 2023 #2
The shooter either is very lucky or made good escape plans. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #4
Or is dead. brooklynite Oct 2023 #5
Or in the woods of Canada? Attilatheblond Oct 2023 #14
Canada is a long way from Lewiston. No reports of a stolen car. brooklynite Oct 2023 #16
Distance is a relative thing Attilatheblond Oct 2023 #21
Apparently a survivalist, JenniferJuniper Oct 2023 #6
If he is actively psychotic with hallucinations, he may make some mistakes. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #9
If he made escape plans Marthe48 Oct 2023 #11
About one in five of all serial killers were psychotic at the time of their crimes. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #13
Thank you for the measured response Marthe48 Oct 2023 #19
Yes it is complicated. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #22
Jeffery Dalhmer was pretty careful Kaleva Oct 2023 #15
Yes another very interesting case of someone psychotic able to plan crimes and eluding LE. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #23
I think he offed himself tenderfoot Oct 2023 #18
Yes this is quite possible. Or he may want the police to kill him. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #25
Why be on lockdown? Shouldn't everybody be out and about with their guns? Why so afraid when everybody GuppyGal Oct 2023 #7
Wow! That's a broad brush you're painting peacefreak2.0 Oct 2023 #12
Obviously....I was trying to make a point !!! Please stop with it may be entertaining to you nonsense. GuppyGal Oct 2023 #20
Easy for you peacefreak2.0 Oct 2023 #30
I live in NYC and have my whole life so you don't know what you are talking about. I'm done. GuppyGal Oct 2023 #34
And obviously a person close to the situation found your joke difficult to stomach. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #32
Read Carefully! Nowhere did I say I was making a 'JOKE' I said I was making a POINT GuppyGal Oct 2023 #33
You didn't have to SAY you made a joke. You made a joke in post #7 about the situation. And no, nothing went over my Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #36
OMG that wasn't a joke it's called sarcasm. The nonsense is the BS that I and they said this to other posters as GuppyGal Oct 2023 #37
Once again, that poster is clearly someone who is being closely affected by the shootings. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #38
Thank you for your kindness. peacefreak2.0 Oct 2023 #39
When it affects your home town and your circle, it is VERY personal. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #40
Kind of silly to have the whole city on lockdown--frightened people Wingus Dingus Oct 2023 #17
The Boston police department did the same thing after the marathon bombers hit the city. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #26
I saw a headline that the law is dragging the river Marthe48 Oct 2023 #24
If his boat is missing then this is a good option to pursue. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #27
Hunting season is about to open.... getagrip_already Oct 2023 #28
Maybe this will be over by then Marthe48 Oct 2023 #29
It opens 10/28... tomorrow getagrip_already Oct 2023 #31
They have. peacefreak2.0 Oct 2023 #35
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