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25. Our so-called "founders" owned slaves.

Sun Oct 29, 2023, 08:43 AM

Oct 2023

This summer we got to do a little sight seeing. We drove to Cartagena, and did the tourist thingie. It was fun.

We even got to take a tour of Simón Bolívar's estate. (It was enormous.) The kitchen had a tiny window where his slaves were fed. His slaves were not even allowed in the kitchen. Can't be too careful. He had a lot of enemies.

LA REBELION (NO LE PEGUE A LA NEGRA) - Joe Arroyo

LA TIERRA PROMETIDA, CARLOS VIVES, CARTAGENA DE INDIAS, COLOMBIA, TURISMO

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The US has an identity crisis rooted in way too much religion [View all] RSherman Oct 2023 OP

"Identity" is the root of all problems sanatanadharma Oct 2023 #1

Yes! Agree with "identifying as human" RSherman Oct 2023 #2

Just because somebody comes from a different culture... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #6

My wife comes from a Catholic culture going back 500 years. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #4

"Catholic culture" has been a very destructive force on earth Skittles Oct 2023 #12

How does my wife's identity and culture hurt you? stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #13

It doesn't. Until (or if) she decides that her culture needs to be used as a framework to 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 #14

Well, to be fair, ... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #18

Smirconish listener? Or just like the song? 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 #19

We don't have cable. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #20

He's also on XM satellite. 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Oct 2023 #58

Catholics are a major force in the movement that took away my bodily autonomy. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #28

How does my wife's culture and identity harm you in any way? stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #30

I don't know your wife, so I will speak of my own experience. When I was sitting in those Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #35

This wasn't that long ago. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #47

I notice you like to post a lot of non-sequiturs. Your post has nothing Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #50

Pretend you didn't mention LGBTQ rights if you want. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #51

I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #54

I'm saying that... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #55

I am finding the progression of your posts incomprehensible, and am not interested enought to continue. Bye! Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #56

that culture DOES affect lives Skittles Oct 2023 #59

Did you misbehave as a child? stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #60

Yes they are. The South is where America has gotten it's current religiousity from ms liberty Oct 2023 #16

A little further to the south. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #22

Identity is a problem when the 'identity' needs to be defended sanatanadharma Oct 2023 #34

Identity becomes a problem when it is attacked. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #48

Yes, it is a two-sided coin. sanatanadharma Oct 2023 #57

Bothsiderism... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #62

For real? edisdead Oct 2023 #37

Yes, for real. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #43

Your wife's identity edisdead Oct 2023 #63

Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #64

What is white supremecist hate? edisdead Oct 2023 #65

If you are accusing me of white supremacy edisdead Oct 2023 #66

I believe that our Founders were very wise to provide freedom of religion and freedom from religion. Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #3

Our so-called "founders" owned slaves. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #25

yes they did! edisdead Oct 2023 #38

They killed more white folks than you or I can imagine. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #46

Re: Money 303squadron Oct 2023 #5

Kids that grew up with the traditional Pledge helped win two world wars is one thing I always point brewens Oct 2023 #7

the phrase "under God" was not added until 1954 Celerity Oct 2023 #15

Edited edisdead Oct 2023 #40

Yup. n/t brewens Oct 2023 #45

Children in public schools can pray any time they want jayschool2013 Oct 2023 #8

We were founded as a Christian nation they say. Okay, and after something like 1800 years of brewens Oct 2023 #9

In Truth, prayer... SouthernLiberal Oct 2023 #10

Kids are also SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #11

A lot of children pray in school, ... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #31

In School.... Maplewood, N.J. schools banned Halloween parties because some parents complained that 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 #17

They may as well ban Holy Week. stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #23

Growing up on Long Island, it was common phylny Oct 2023 #24

And then there is a chunk of the country that seems to think the (Republican) president is divinely selected ck4829 Oct 2023 #26

The world would hildegaard28 Oct 2023 #27

Completely agree! edisdead Oct 2023 #41

If you see cultural genocide as the answer, ... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #52

imagine that! JoseBalow Oct 2023 #68

Some of the original colonies were established as religious. 3 Catholic, 5 Protestant, 5 Interdenominational. ancianita Oct 2023 #29

Can I get an amen? Siggy52 Oct 2023 #32

Sure, AMEN, now you happy? KS Toronado Oct 2023 #42

I was in elementary school when "under God" was added. kskiska Oct 2023 #33

Those were different times. The war had leftyladyfrommo Oct 2023 #36

Most people have no idea that it was the Catholics who led the movement to take prayer out of schools. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #39

Religion. czarjak Oct 2023 #53

America is regressing to the 17th century Poiuyt Oct 2023 #44

It's not "too much religion". Its a pernicious form of Christianity that is the problem. milestogo Oct 2023 #61

Religion is a silly notion to make the small-minded feel better about death. SoFlaBro Oct 2023 #67