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In reply to the discussion: The US has an identity crisis rooted in way too much religion [View all]stuck in the middle
(821 posts)60. Did you misbehave as a child?
Did your parents threaten to feed you to the patianos?
Thats just an old trope. My wife has never actually eaten anybody.
Im trying to understand why you fear my wifes culture so much.
Las almas de los violines negros : http://repositorio.unicauca.edu.co:8080/bitstream/handle/123456789/2222/TESIS%20PALOMA%20MU%C3%91OZ%20FINAL.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
(page 143)
Es cierto que los procesos de colonización y evangelización marcaron la pauta dualista entre el bien y el mal, y este diablo es el acusador, el que controla, es el maligno; el Valle del Patía ha sido conocido históricamente como un territorio portador del mal. El Patía lugar escabroso, de negros, de abigeato, bajeza asociada al ejercicio de la fuerza, de la esgrima, del crimen y el trabajo forzoso en la minería. Recuerdo de niña que, en Popayán, ciertos adultos le decían a los niños cuando eran necios, traviesos, desobedientes y callejeros sin permiso de los padres, frases como: Si te portas mal, te come o te mata un negro del Patía. Epítetos como negros, salvajes, infieles, sin alma a lo largo de la colonia y hasta mediados del siglo XX, eran el mal para todo aquel que no estaba dentro de la norma establecida por la conducta moral del Estado-nación. Unos irracionales -eran considerados los afros- en una racionalidad colonial, por su particular concepción y comportamiento distintos; posteriormente fueron declarados apátridas por no ser partícipes de las contiendas en la campaña libertadora comandada por Simón Bolívar, quien participa en una lucha libertadora en la que quienes comandaban eran los que habían sido sus amos antes de fugarse al haber sido esclavos.
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It is true that the processes of colonization and evangelization set the dualistic pattern between good and evil, and this devil is the accuser, the one who controls, the evil one; the Patía Valley has historically been known as a territory bearing evil. Patía, a rugged place, associated with black people, cattle theft, lowliness linked to the exercise of force, fencing, crime, and forced labor in mining. I remember as a child in Popayán, certain adults would tell children phrases like: "If you behave badly, a black person from Patía will eat you or kill you." Epithets such as "blacks," "savages," "infidels," "soulless" throughout the colonial period and until the mid-20th century, represented evil for anyone who did not conform to the established moral conduct of the nation-state. The Afro-descendants were considered "irrational" in a colonial rationality due to their distinctive conception and behavior; later, they were declared "stateless" for not participating in the liberation campaign led by Simón Bolívar, who fought for freedom alongside those who had been their masters before they escaped from slavery.
(page 143)
Es cierto que los procesos de colonización y evangelización marcaron la pauta dualista entre el bien y el mal, y este diablo es el acusador, el que controla, es el maligno; el Valle del Patía ha sido conocido históricamente como un territorio portador del mal. El Patía lugar escabroso, de negros, de abigeato, bajeza asociada al ejercicio de la fuerza, de la esgrima, del crimen y el trabajo forzoso en la minería. Recuerdo de niña que, en Popayán, ciertos adultos le decían a los niños cuando eran necios, traviesos, desobedientes y callejeros sin permiso de los padres, frases como: Si te portas mal, te come o te mata un negro del Patía. Epítetos como negros, salvajes, infieles, sin alma a lo largo de la colonia y hasta mediados del siglo XX, eran el mal para todo aquel que no estaba dentro de la norma establecida por la conducta moral del Estado-nación. Unos irracionales -eran considerados los afros- en una racionalidad colonial, por su particular concepción y comportamiento distintos; posteriormente fueron declarados apátridas por no ser partícipes de las contiendas en la campaña libertadora comandada por Simón Bolívar, quien participa en una lucha libertadora en la que quienes comandaban eran los que habían sido sus amos antes de fugarse al haber sido esclavos.
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It is true that the processes of colonization and evangelization set the dualistic pattern between good and evil, and this devil is the accuser, the one who controls, the evil one; the Patía Valley has historically been known as a territory bearing evil. Patía, a rugged place, associated with black people, cattle theft, lowliness linked to the exercise of force, fencing, crime, and forced labor in mining. I remember as a child in Popayán, certain adults would tell children phrases like: "If you behave badly, a black person from Patía will eat you or kill you." Epithets such as "blacks," "savages," "infidels," "soulless" throughout the colonial period and until the mid-20th century, represented evil for anyone who did not conform to the established moral conduct of the nation-state. The Afro-descendants were considered "irrational" in a colonial rationality due to their distinctive conception and behavior; later, they were declared "stateless" for not participating in the liberation campaign led by Simón Bolívar, who fought for freedom alongside those who had been their masters before they escaped from slavery.
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It doesn't. Until (or if) she decides that her culture needs to be used as a framework to
3Hotdogs
Oct 2023
#14
Catholics are a major force in the movement that took away my bodily autonomy.
Scrivener7
Oct 2023
#28
I don't know your wife, so I will speak of my own experience. When I was sitting in those
Scrivener7
Oct 2023
#35
I am finding the progression of your posts incomprehensible, and am not interested enought to continue. Bye!
Scrivener7
Oct 2023
#56
Yes they are. The South is where America has gotten it's current religiousity from
ms liberty
Oct 2023
#16
I believe that our Founders were very wise to provide freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
Lonestarblue
Oct 2023
#3
Kids that grew up with the traditional Pledge helped win two world wars is one thing I always point
brewens
Oct 2023
#7
We were founded as a Christian nation they say. Okay, and after something like 1800 years of
brewens
Oct 2023
#9
In School.... Maplewood, N.J. schools banned Halloween parties because some parents complained that
3Hotdogs
Oct 2023
#17
And then there is a chunk of the country that seems to think the (Republican) president is divinely selected
ck4829
Oct 2023
#26
Some of the original colonies were established as religious. 3 Catholic, 5 Protestant, 5 Interdenominational.
ancianita
Oct 2023
#29
Most people have no idea that it was the Catholics who led the movement to take prayer out of schools.
Scrivener7
Oct 2023
#39
It's not "too much religion". Its a pernicious form of Christianity that is the problem.
milestogo
Oct 2023
#61