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pinkstarburst

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67. I'd prefer Buttigieg, Gavin Newsom, or I'd still

Tue Oct 31, 2023, 10:11 AM

Oct 2023

love Elizabeth Warren, who was my choice in the 2020 primary, but age may be a factor by that point.

With Harris, it's not that I don't think she doesn't have the intelligence or capability to do the job--she does. It's that she has never proven that she can win over voters. She didn't do very well in the 2020 primary. First she would need to win over DEMOCRATS (which she has never successfully done) and then she would have the much more daunting task of winning over the rest of the country in a general election, where she would face the same sexism Hillary faced in 2016--the most qualified person ever to run for president, running against a buffoon, and this country still wouldn't elect her--and Kamala Harris would have to face that same sexism, plus racism as many will not wish to elect a black woman president.

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Kamala Harris - 2028. [View all] OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 OP

I would be THRILLED if she was POTUS for 8 years. LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #1

Racism, sure, but never underestimate... dchill Oct 2023 #3

Yes, I believe the term is "misogynoir" LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #46

It's misogyny too Bettie Oct 2023 #4

A depressing thought. I still have hope! LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #44

In my case it isn't, nor is it because she's a woman Polybius Oct 2023 #50

I'm not defaulting to Kamala Harris. She'll have to prove her ability to win like everyone else. brooklynite Oct 2023 #2

Doesn't surprise me. You may be a Democrat, but every election is a transactional financial OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #7

Absolutely wrong. brooklynite Oct 2023 #25

Are you suggesting that some of us "fellow Democrats" wouldn't support the Democratic Party under other circumstances? brooklynite Oct 2023 #26

Yes... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #27

what does that mean? LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #45

I need to know that the candidate I pick has bother the competence to govern and the political skills to win. brooklynite Oct 2023 #53

I assume you mean "both" (not bother) LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #61

.She wasn't competitive in 2020.... brooklynite Oct 2023 #62

Obviously she will be in a very different place in 2028 as former VP LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #63

Not so far, from my perspective... brooklynite Oct 2023 #64

Agree. beaglelover Oct 2023 #51

Strong intelligent woman of color.... getagrip_already Oct 2023 #5

I've always been a big fan of hers calguy Oct 2023 #6

Joe and Kamala started with a health crisis that Trump fucked up. At least 500K died needlessly because of OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #8

If you can get a majority of Dems to agree with you... calguy Oct 2023 #11

why WOULDN'T we get a majority of Dems to agree? Is there something blocking people from seeing her accomplishments? LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #47

Man she was my pick early in the run up to 2020. edisdead Oct 2023 #23

It has nothing to do with misogyny? I can't believe that Walleye Oct 2023 #32

I chose Warren over Harris (and Klobuchar, Gillibrand, Gabbard) 4 years ago. progressoid Oct 2023 #35

Well I'm certainly not accusing you of misogyny, but look around, it's a way of life here Walleye Oct 2023 #36

You can believe or disbelieve anything you want calguy Oct 2023 #37

"she lacks what it takes to make a serious presidential run." Gee, what on earth could that be? LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #48

You have something there but I think alot of the public's dismissal of her is a product of the media's presentation. jaxexpat Oct 2023 #40

Getting a little ahead of oneself, aren't we? Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #9

+1 Takket Oct 2023 #16

Watching the 60 Minutes feature of her, and she seems....powerful. n/t AntiFascist Oct 2023 #20

Think the OP was being a bit tongue in cheek there edisdead Oct 2023 #24

I will likely not be supporting her in the primaries, as she may well not win the key swing states in the general Celerity Oct 2023 #10

If we don't win in 2024 kwolf68 Oct 2023 #12

History shows that sitting V.P.s do not win. See Nixon, Gore question everything Oct 2023 #13

Poppy also went down to an approval rating of about 28% Polybius Oct 2023 #18

I'd add H2O Man Oct 2023 #21

Truman? Gore did win without SC tilting scale uponit7771 Oct 2023 #28

No, he didn't brooklynite Oct 2023 #31

In real life, Florida was relevant and USSC tipped scales to bush. That's reality. End of story uponit7771 Oct 2023 #42

Oddly enough, all of the polls before the election showed Bush winning Florida Polybius Oct 2023 #55

You are correct questionseverything Oct 2023 #58

The "laws" of history are not quite the laws of physics, and even if they were, the sample size is small. NNadir Oct 2023 #57

I've been impressed with her for some time now. Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #14

She's intelligent, charismatic, attractive, fun. betsuni Oct 2023 #22

Someone Else - 2028 DontBelieveEastisEas Oct 2023 #15

Expecting an Obama more than once in a lifetime is asking for disappointment uponit7771 Oct 2023 #29

But if we don't strive... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #33

Too many people are allowing perfect and good to be the enemy of adequate, of course we want perfect ... uponit7771 Oct 2023 #41

I agree... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #43

Well, we've had it twice so far (depending on your age, I'm assuming you are over 30) Polybius Oct 2023 #56

I've liked all the Democratic part presidents in my voting lifetime, I think Biden is more progressive than Clinton ... uponit7771 Oct 2023 #65

I was talking about charisma Polybius Oct 2023 #66

Jeff Jackson (D) NC A HERETIC I AM Oct 2023 #34

I'm not familiar with him but I'm getting kind of a John Edwards vibe. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2023 #39

He should have ran for the US Senate in 2020. Unfortunately he is now going to likely lose his US Celerity Oct 2023 #49

He's running for NC Attorney General. brooklynite Oct 2023 #54

good career move due to the new maps Celerity Oct 2023 #60

She wouldn't be my first choice (nor second or third or even fourth) Polybius Oct 2023 #17

I like her, She has it all hydrolastic Oct 2023 #19

I've been patiently waiting... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #30

I like her, and she was my first choice in 2020... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #38

Gavin Newsom OLDMDDEM Oct 2023 #52

There are so many potential candidates I like a lot more than Harris. tritsofme Oct 2023 #59

I'd prefer Buttigieg, Gavin Newsom, or I'd still pinkstarburst Oct 2023 #67