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Jedi Guy

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51. From your link, emphasis mine:

Tue Oct 31, 2023, 03:02 PM

Oct 2023

The IDF says the strike killed a senior Hamas commander and caused the collapse of Hamas's underground infrastructure.

If true, they struck a military target. Hamas knowingly and deliberately set up shop beneath the camp and used the people in Jabalia as human shields, which is on brand for them.

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Dozens killed at Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza [View all] JohnSJ Oct 2023 OP

K&R ! stonecutter357 Oct 2023 #1

But didn't claudette Oct 2023 #2

Yes they did. So? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #3

Exactly JohnSJ Oct 2023 #5

The health claudette Oct 2023 #6

The totally discredited Hamas ministry says so... I am all ears! Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #9

The IDF already admitted the bombing womanofthehills Oct 2023 #21

Let's start with the militants. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #22

The poster was claudette Oct 2023 #31

So was I. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #50

You know what? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #70

If the people using the human shields are still alive, then yes, it did work AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #75

One can condemn both the use of human shields... ExciteBike66 Oct 2023 #117

You are absolutely right. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #80

Why not try BBC ? Butterflylady Oct 2023 #107

Tried just that. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #119

The IDF just confirmed it obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #45

IDF confirmed targeting of of a seniot Hamas commander and Hamas underground tunnels. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #53

Yesterday we didn't believe the hospital that was bombed sarisataka Oct 2023 #13

IDF confirmed obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #47

So Hamas placed some kind of underground sarisataka Oct 2023 #55

This wouldn't be the first time... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #23

"...vilify the Ebil Israelis just thirsty for the blood of innocents!!!" Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #28

Can you prove it claudette Oct 2023 #29

Disproving a negative? That's not how it works. Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #32

To each his oen belief claudette Oct 2023 #37

"Hamas is bad" is one hell of an understatement, you know. Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #44

Time will tell Redleg Oct 2023 #123

Sorry. Duplicate post claudette Oct 2023 #39

Israel Confirms Deadly Strike On Jabalia Refugee Camp - BBC NEWS Celerity Oct 2023 #49

From your link, emphasis mine: Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #51

Yea. Here is proof claudette Oct 2023 #58

And as I responded to Celerity, from that very link: Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #63

And.... NCWilm Oct 2023 #74

No, that's not how it goes. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #96

So NCWilm Oct 2023 #115

I am saying no such thing, and I couldn't imagine why you would make this up. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #122

So you think Hamas is 100% at fault for their deaths? NCWilm Oct 2023 #126

A Much Closer Analogy, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2023 #127

Missing the point NCWilm Nov 2023 #135

You Don't want To Take The Point, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2023 #136

Of course not NCWilm Nov 2023 #137

If You're In A Mood To Continue Providing Entertainment, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2023 #138

Welp there pard-ner NCWilm Nov 2023 #139

Thank You For The Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2023 #140

Oh no NCWilm Nov 2023 #141

To add to The Magistrte's analogy, Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #130

It may well have been them... Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #38

Just like mentioning claudette Oct 2023 #40

You're underselling yourself! Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #46

I certainly am not claudette Oct 2023 #56

Hamas "narrative" AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #72

IDF admitted it claudette Oct 2023 #79

IDF admitted it hit a tunnel and eliminated a Hamas commander. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #98

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #71

And you know all this how? claudette Oct 2023 #30

It's called news reports Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #99

How about CNN, that good enough krawhitham Oct 2023 #124

CNN confirms what I said Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #129

what if Hamas was shooting rockets from there? That would make it a military target LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #16

If you ignore claudette Oct 2023 #42

There is no doubt abou that Mossfern Oct 2023 #66

How is that ignoring the point that Israel may have been trying to hit a military target? LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #110

I think a reasonanble argument could be made TheRealNorth Oct 2023 #86

Most new reports now say 400 & climbing womanofthehills Oct 2023 #4

Latest reports: dozens dead, 100 injured. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #11

6 tons of bombs? Horiffic if true womanofthehills Oct 2023 #7

If it's according to Palestinian Ministry of Health, it is not likely to be true. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #10

It is also a center of Hamas activities Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #62

JFC MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #73

jfc leftstreet Oct 2023 #8

"The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza" seems to have garnered some trust among certain people. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #12

Well you just have to go on social media womanofthehills Oct 2023 #18

Social media... That's reliable! Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #24

Finally progressive sites condemning this womanofthehills Oct 2023 #19

They also condemned the Israeli strile on Al Ahli hospital and 500 casualties. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #26

Israel can do no wrong disablegamer Oct 2023 #14

That's about it. David__77 Oct 2023 #15

I haven't seen anyone say this. But blaming them for unjustly or purposefully killing civilians is not right either. LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #17

And to some Israel is never right. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #25

As long as you have no evidence to the contrary, yeah, you are pretty much right. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #27

IDF confirmed obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #48

IDF confirmed targeting of of a seniot Hamas commander and Hamas underground tunnels. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #54

Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #81

Well said, Beastly. Cha Oct 2023 #125

No country nor human is perfect................ Lovie777 Oct 2023 #34

That seems to be the claudette Oct 2023 #35

Who said concern for innocents is anti-Semitic AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #64

I'm on Israel's side and can easily say this is a war crime Arazi Oct 2023 #52

It is a crime, without question. sarisataka Oct 2023 #57

I am sure George Armstrong Custer would have said the same thing.... TheRealNorth Oct 2023 #69

It is because of people like Custer sarisataka Oct 2023 #78

Apparently for some here terrorists are a reliable source of information AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #59

The IDF confirmed it was their strike, or are you calling the IDF terrorists??? obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #61

Reading comprehension difficult? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #65

Well TheRealNorth Oct 2023 #83

The HAMAS Terrorist Bloody Org Disagrees with you. Cha Oct 2023 #84

Is this like that earlier hospital bombing? Calculating Oct 2023 #20

you know it's Hamas because WhiteTara Oct 2023 #36

Do we also give Israel Palestinian civilians to hide behind? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #100

Mossad is terrible at their job of WhiteTara Oct 2023 #104

You sound very confident in your assertions. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #105

I Am Always Curious, Sir, How This 'Rounding Up' Is To Occur The Magistrate Oct 2023 #118

The IDF just confirmed the strike obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #43

Why did I see our top General talking about striking MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #33

I guess 50 innocents are worth one top Hamas commander. Duly noted. WarGamer Oct 2023 #41

Hamas apparently thinks so AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2023 #60

The IDF is controlled by Hamas? Voltaire2 Oct 2023 #68

Israel controls the locations of Hamas leaders? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #102

before this phase of this endless war is over Voltaire2 Oct 2023 #67

I'm looking forward Mossfern Oct 2023 #77

Oh I don't know, I'm no expert. Voltaire2 Oct 2023 #92

I believe you, you arre no expert. Apparently, no expert seriously suggested this might work. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #103

Hint: Your statement is what Hamas wants as a reaction. PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #113

I doubt that Hamas wants to hear yet another reason that justifies its elimination Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #120

Oh... that part is actually easy FBaggins Oct 2023 #121

The bloodlust is sickening. MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #82

As long as we have threads like these, attacking one another.... Chakaconcarne Oct 2023 #76

"Refugee camp" Established in 1948 EX500rider Oct 2023 #85

If they don't have citizenship, they are considered refugees by law. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #87

Palestinian's seem to be the only ones with hereditary "refugee" status EX500rider Oct 2023 #89

They don't have any citizenship. Palestine isn't a country. No citizens. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #91

However I don't think they can return to the British Mandate either EX500rider Oct 2023 #101

Gazans are mostly refugees. There are a few citizens and professionals who live there. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #108

You asked, and I answered, over 2 weeks ago, but you clearly didn't give a toss muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #111

So refugees from the British Palestine Mandate? Cause i don't think they can go back there EX500rider Oct 2023 #112

Thanks to Israel, no, they can't muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #114

" Israel enlarged its borders from the proposed division" EX500rider Nov 2023 #131

It's not like the Palestinians took a vote and decided to do that muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #132

I hardly consider people permanent refugees EX500rider Nov 2023 #133

As I said, you're just telling us about your feelings muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #134

JFC they are refugees! Are you listening to yourself?! obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #88

If you were born in Gaza and your parents were born in Gaza.. EX500rider Oct 2023 #90

They are legally refugees obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #95

Refugees from what country? The British Mandate of Palestine? EX500rider Oct 2023 #97

Gaza has no status as a nation or a part of any nation. Voltaire2 Oct 2023 #93

I believe the ancestors on 1.6milliion Palestinian Israeli citizens took up Israel's 1948 offer. CincyDem Oct 2023 #106

If only Jordan and Egypt had permitted one..... brooklynite Oct 2023 #109

This reminds me of the US attitude when we invaded Iraq after 9/11. walkingman Oct 2023 #94

"So, what you're saying is, you support the terrorists!?" Oneironaut Oct 2023 #116

dfgasg timrogger Nov 2023 #128