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EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
77. You indicate that Netanyahu will
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 12:59 PM
Nov 2023

apparently label just anyone as Hamas according to his preference. This is just a supposition on your part.

I think that you are naive on the matter that a simple ceasefire and brisk talking will end this war. Be prepared for all the rest of the hostages to disappear into history, as my supposition is that Hamas is using them in attempts to gain advantage in the war. A ceasefire to negotiate for hostage release is not going to happen, as that is not the intent of Hamas. Here they are actually trying to fan the flames of war. Here it is always the other guy that dies, not them. They are ready to sacrifice not only the noncombatants, but their own soldiers just as long as they keep the hostilities burning.

Your overall post smacks of antisemitism, although that is a popular dig and I don't think you meant it. I think that what Hamas did is beyond just breaking international law. It was a crime against humanity, which Hamas just indicated they will repeat. You have to ask yourself why would Hamas publicly voice their hatred like this? They want to keep the war going with their dedication to Israel's destruction, so better to scream a war cry to their fellow Arabs, without which their annihilistic dream will never happen.

They're getting their own asses kicked. There was no justification for what they did, and certainly none for what they are saying. No, Israel will not get rid of all of Hamas. But they can take control of Gaza back, and give it to the Palestinians, who I think will think twice or thrice before they reelect those hideous monsters. If they do reelect Hamas, then the next time Hamas decides to butcher humans, they will be nothing but a parking lot, regardless. As steep as the price is, Hamas has got to go. And, they won't go voluntarily.

In the grand scheme of things, it's good to care deeply about other humans and what happens to them. But sometimes you have to suck it up and do what you have to do.

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And this is exactly why Israel is continuing the ground war ripcord Nov 2023 #1
Even if claudette Nov 2023 #7
Israel is not part of the ICC ripcord Nov 2023 #11
Oh, okay then claudette Nov 2023 #15
They have a right to defend themselves ripcord Nov 2023 #21
Only one thing left to do atreides1 Nov 2023 #34
So you don't have a solution? Guess what after decades neither does anyone else ripcord Nov 2023 #39
Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #53
Not a Netanyahu fan. He's Israel's Trump. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2023 #58
And you are Kreskin, the great mind reader? wnylib Nov 2023 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Nov 2023 #111
Then you didnt listen to the revmclaren Nov 2023 #18
It's useless claudette Nov 2023 #22
This is not revenge for the October massacre revmclaren Nov 2023 #28
Having read your posts since this started its pretty clear you don't "stand with Israel" BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #64
They have made their stance and support revmclaren Nov 2023 #70
"if both sides would talk and not kill each other." DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2023 #89
Are you only recently learning about the I/P situation? yardwork Nov 2023 #121
I wonder, in this context, if the term "Hamas" is not a euphemism for all Palestinians. Chainfire Nov 2023 #112
....and the innocent Israelis slaughtered? Mossfern Nov 2023 #29
No claudette Nov 2023 #35
Israel is defending itself Mossfern Nov 2023 #42
Except that claudette Nov 2023 #54
Netanyahu is protecting his peope Mossfern Nov 2023 #73
The same could be said for Germany and Japan 80 years ago WalkerinSC Nov 2023 #81
It isn't that Hamas' violation of the laws of war excuses the same from Israel... FBaggins Nov 2023 #82
This, i think people are having a hard time grasping this. DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2023 #91
They don't care to grasp it ...it's really not that hard. GuppyGal Nov 2023 #110
How does one fight an enemy like Hamas? Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #40
Well claudette Nov 2023 #46
OKay, let's address that.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #57
Israel has a far right government. Zionism used in this context tars an entire nation. hedda_foil Nov 2023 #65
You indicate that Netanyahu will EndlessWire Nov 2023 #77
I don't like it, either. But Hamas makes it impossible to defeat them wnylib Nov 2023 #49
Your understanding is not required. BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #63
Rec.. not required. Cha Nov 2023 #120
you're correct... international law only applies to Israel but not Hamas, agingdem Nov 2023 #66
So what would you have Israel do, then? Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #79
The air strikes have to stop immediately as IMO they are as inhumane as what Hamas did... brush Nov 2023 #90
While I appreciate that it's a suggestion on what Israel should do rather than what they shouldn't... Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #93
I absolutely disagree that the urban warfare will be worse for the civilians... brush Nov 2023 #97
I hope you are correct, but I fear you will not be. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #100
Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #102
"So you're in favor of bombing civilian housing? Unbelievable." Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #105
You finally said you're not in favor of continued bombings. That's all you had to say. brush Nov 2023 #107
You're sitting in a comfy domicile PCIntern Nov 2023 #106
You're doing the same thing. See post 107. brush Nov 2023 #108
and the air strikes are not random... agingdem Nov 2023 #118
"Hamas started this war, Israel intends to finish it." Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #119
nothing says "We Care" like Hamas using their agingdem Nov 2023 #125
Innocents die in war Zeitghost Nov 2023 #109
"Never Again" will Jews everywhere trust the global community to agingdem Nov 2023 #126
GD Hamas "Slaughtered" Innocent Jewish People on Oct 7 Cha Nov 2023 #113
Fuck Hamas! They are the ones who need to be annihilated. Initech Nov 2023 #2
This is why a ceasefire is not realistic. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #3
They are straight up JustAnotherGen Nov 2023 #4
They want their claudette Nov 2023 #9
Are you seriously taking the side of those monsters? Calculating Nov 2023 #20
I believe so Mossfern Nov 2023 #36
Are you claudette Nov 2023 #38
This isn't just about revenge. Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #43
There's a great way JustAnotherGen Nov 2023 #129
Nah, Hamas will continue whether it's Netanyahu or someone else Arazi Nov 2023 #33
Exactly... You can't negotiate with terrorists who are hellbent to destroy you. calguy Nov 2023 #45
What land? Land in Israel? Do you think that's a realistic expectation? NT Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #41
THIS is why no ceasefire is possible, and why Gaza is as it is. Fozzledick Nov 2023 #5
And the claudette Nov 2023 #6
they are literally telling you "No cease fire" edisdead Nov 2023 #8
Maybe if claudette Nov 2023 #12
Maybe edisdead Nov 2023 #48
That's just one claudette Nov 2023 #51
Yeah. I was always wondering why the reasonable, moderate Al Qaeda and ISIS guys didn't Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #56
Thank You For The Gift Of Laughter, Ma'am: The Stuff's In Short Supply Nowadays The Magistrate Nov 2023 #69
"I'm thinking (and hoping) there are many other Hamas members who think differently." Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #85
This made me laugh out loud JoseBalow Nov 2023 #92
Please, sarisataka Nov 2023 #115
I think Hamas needs to be severely hobbled first. Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #14
Hamas needs to be completely destroyed first calguy Nov 2023 #50
Well, I have lower expectations of how much they CAN be destroyed, considering Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #55
I have the same reservations that you do calguy Nov 2023 #127
Why is it so difficult to understand sarisataka Nov 2023 #16
I take that to mean claudette Nov 2023 #19
They have already joined the Arab nations in five genocide attempts ripcord Nov 2023 #26
Dont you hate people who dont even revmclaren Nov 2023 #30
If you read the Hamas Covenant sarisataka Nov 2023 #31
Oh stop spinning it to suit your needs. EllieBC Nov 2023 #74
Looks good on paper EndlessWire Nov 2023 #95
There has been so much support worldwide PatSeg Nov 2023 #10
He really did ruin it claudette Nov 2023 #13
That is the way it always is. Extremists sabotaged OSLO, the closest we came to an actual JohnSJ Nov 2023 #44
Hamas has been saying this all along sarisataka Nov 2023 #27
This. +100 Freethinker65 Nov 2023 #37
This constant verbal attacks by leaders Farmer-Rick Nov 2023 #61
Um, the actions on 10/7 speak for themselves yardwork Nov 2023 #80
All Palestinians must go to heaven to glorify Hamas dalton99a Nov 2023 #17
He wants his own people to die while he sits in luxury Calculating Nov 2023 #23
he 'wants' his 72 virgins... Justice matters. Nov 2023 #67
Mosad needs to put this murderous asswipe revmclaren Nov 2023 #24
Well he should start with himself then..... GuppyGal Nov 2023 #47
Is he one of the cowards WalkerinSC Nov 2023 #84
That does not sound like a path to a cease fire. CanonRay Nov 2023 #25
exactly why Hamas can't be reasoned or negotiated with rollin74 Nov 2023 #32
Agreed. How do negotiate with someone who doesn't recognize your right to exist. Ray Bruns Nov 2023 #88
Both side engaging in too much of this rhetoric Army Brat Nov 2023 #52
You watched the video revmclaren Nov 2023 #60
Perhaps they mean on Gaza ColinC Nov 2023 #62
Did they not see the signs about the ceasefire? Sympthsical Nov 2023 #68
It's crazy that people in a ghetto get desperate ChicagoComrade Nov 2023 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Nov 2023 #104
When, exactly, would Hamas agree to a true ceasefire? keithbvadu2 Nov 2023 #72
Did they not get the ceasefire memo from the squad or the dsa? EllieBC Nov 2023 #75
This is the problem... Joinfortmill Nov 2023 #76
Well, that seems pretty clear. yardwork Nov 2023 #78
Not clear enough sarisataka Nov 2023 #94
Yes, I see. yardwork Nov 2023 #122
Hamas's 1988 founding charter calls for the destruction of Israel. That is still Ziggysmom Nov 2023 #83
Apparently, a lot of folks commenting on this never heard of Hamas until last week. yardwork Nov 2023 #86
Anyone who thinks Israel is being unreasonable needs to watch this perdita9 Nov 2023 #87
I took the time to read all of the replies to Hamad's post. It simply reinforces flashman13 Nov 2023 #96
No outrage from me radicalleft Nov 2023 #98
Q: "Does that mean the annihilation of Israel? " sarisataka Nov 2023 #99
When someone tells you what they are going to do, believe them. former9thward Nov 2023 #101
Boy is he going to be surprised when he finds out all those protesters negotiated a ceasefire. mathematic Nov 2023 #103
Ding Ding Ding hit it right on the head GuppyGal Nov 2023 #114
It's funny that most of the Israel haters stay far away from this thread GuppyGal Nov 2023 #116
Hard to spin Hamas intent TheProle Nov 2023 #123
They will not be able to do another Oct 7. honest.abe Nov 2023 #117
WHEN PEOPLE TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE - BELIEVE THEM. Maru Kitteh Nov 2023 #124
When people like that tell you their intentions, believe them, too. DFW Nov 2023 #130
Yet some will continue to attack Israel for defending itself. Patton French Nov 2023 #128
As long as they get that sweet oil money to help spike prices, JCMach1 Nov 2023 #131
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