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In reply to the discussion: The US Government can stop this genocide [View all]Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)So I can respond to it a bit more clearly. With the accusations of genocide out of the way, let's take on accusations of ethnic cleansing. I am not sure what definition for ethnic cleansing you are using, or how you differentiate between it and genocide, but most sources would agree that ethnic cleansing involves systematic forced removal of one or more ethnicities from an area defined by some greographic boundaries with the intent of ending their presence within those boundaries.
There is no question that this description does not apply to Israeli Palestinians, regardless of your views on how various discrimination patterns play out within Israel. In Gaza, there is no evidence of forced removal of Palestinians by Israel. If anything, the Palestinian population gas been growing steadily for the past 50 years, due mostly by birth rates within Gaza. Hardly consistent with the intention to ending their presence there.
2 million Israeli Palestinians plus 2 million Gaza Palestinians, no signs of ethnic cleansing against the significant majority of Palestinians in Palestine.
That leaves 2.8 million Palestinians in the West Bank today. In 1970 it was less than 0.7 million. Again, where is the evidence of ethnic cleansing? Were there individuals and even small communities displaced (not removed)? Yes. Are the Jewish settlements illegal? Yes. Is this ethnic cleansing? Not even close.
Over 6 million Palestinians in three geographically distinct areas, and not a sign of ethnic cleansing. So much for a little knowledge being a dangerous thing.
Speaking of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing: any sources that would confirm the three hour evacuation window? From what I understand, Gazans had been warned by Israel to evacuate at least a week prior to their offensive in North Gaza, leaflets and all.
And, of course, nothing can be used to prove a negative. So my congratulations on your decision to not say there is genocide happening in the West Bank.