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In reply to the discussion: The US Government can stop this genocide [View all]yagotme
(4,129 posts)174. This war, and Oct 7th, are linked.
Of course it's going to be brought up. If not for Oct 7, the Israeli military wouldn't be in Gaza right now, would they. Therefore the way the war is being waged, would be a moot point. If you don't see this, I don't know what to tell you.
In context, I was referring to all laws of war pertaining to the safeguarding of civilians. Proportionality, necessity etc.
Again, I ask for a cite, as to which particular laws they are breaking. They are available online. What I have seen, they are conducting the war as best they can. If you think they are in violation, please reference which law they're breaking.
In the words of the UN, "Gaza is a graveyard for children".
Hundreds of boys and girls and yes Babies, killed every day.
Hundreds of boys and girls and yes Babies, killed every day.
Hamas is using civilians for human shields. It's been said that approx. 1/2 of Gaza are "children". No age bracket. So, if you drop a bomb on a building that Hamas is using for cover, 30 civilians are in the building, law of averages tells us that at least 15 of them are going to be "children". BTW, any male 15 or older is likely to be recruited by Hamas for fighting. No real age restriction there. Not like us, or Israel.
Children that were half-starved already. What justification can there be for withholding food, water, medicine to civilians for a month already? Flouting humanitarian laws and inflicting more suffering. It's a cruel collective punishment.
How many of those kids were starving, suffering, BEFORE Israel invaded? By the hands of their own government? Hamas is known to steal the aid from other countries, to use for themselves, not the civilian population.
If Israel is only going after Hamas fighters and leaders, why are so many women, children, old people and other civilians being killed? It's happening because international laws on war are not being followed.
You're right, but not how you think you are. It's against international law to use citizens as shields. To build/store wartime munitions in/near civilian locations. HAMAS is violating international law. Will you support them being prosecuted for that?
Yes I have a big problem with Israel's war conduct as does most of the world.
You forgot to add the word "Muslim" in front of "world". They are the chief complainants. They are also wanting to see Israel disappear. Bias?
Your "wish" for Palestinians rings hollow precisely because of your thinking and beliefs. If you are willing to excuse the mass slaughter of their civilians, many children, your "wishes" for them are irrelevant and meaningless. Born not of genuine concern for their well- being but to somehow score points for your side. Hollow.
Now, you're saying you think you know what I think. Hamas is at primary fault here. They don't take care of their own population. They attack Israel constantly (or did you forget the missiles they constantly launch, or the occasional suicide bomber). They make off with aid money that could have been used to build up their infrastructure, instead of relying on Israel to provide it. They made a massive incursion into Israel in Oct, killing men, women, CHILDREN, and BABIES. Have you expressed any sympathy for the Israeli individuals, who were DIRECTLY murdered, tortured, raped, etc.? Maybe that hollow sound you hear is coming from your side of the screen...
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How does an infant defend itself from automatic rifle fire from Hamas terrorists?
SoFlaBro
Nov 2023
#86
How does the West Bank protect themselves from armed settlers with American made guns?
womanofthehills
Nov 2023
#167
Can't believe how many DU'ers NEVER address a direct question but start with MAGA-style whataboutisms.
SoFlaBro
Nov 2023
#169
Thereference in the post I replied to wasn't quite clear. This explanation makes your intentions a bit clearer.
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#121
I haven't the faintest idea why you would confuse warning to evacuate with a guarantee of safe passage
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#161
OK Let's leave it at that. I will not admit to you having any evidence to your claims.
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#164
Just because Israel doesn't admit it, doesn't mean it's not happening. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Nov 2023
#107
It's not a matter of Israel admitting it or not. It's a matter of international law.
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#108
People have already said this but I also have to say that Jesus Fucking Christ numbers alone are not what
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2023
#34
tres cool. no issues...I just wanted to look at the data and couldn't figure out what I was missing to get to 70.
CincyDem
Nov 2023
#70
You can't find it because there's no proof she ever said that about "Arabs loving their children."
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2023
#35
That quote is cited in the book as having been said in a speech she gave to the National Press Club in 1957.
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2023
#48
The "oral autobiography" it appears in is a collection of mostly cited and verifiable speeches and extemporaneous
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2023
#91
Also interesting that all the wiki references to this quote were disputed on 10/8/23. Hmmmmm. n/t
CincyDem
Nov 2023
#44
Imagine admitting that you're forced to kill children as state policy and that it's simply too complicated to not do so.
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2023
#92
I'll just leave THIS here. Interpretation of the full quote by playwright and actor Wallace Shawn.
AloeVera
Nov 2023
#72
Not sure what to do with this, but congratulations on tenancy...170 posts in 21 days is pretty impressive.
CincyDem
Nov 2023
#74
Not to mention the effect on people in Gaza too. You know, being nuked would be a problem for them too.
AloeVera
Nov 2023
#117
Not lost, just not discussed, as this was a thought exercise on what Israel would do if backed into a corner.
yagotme
Nov 2023
#118
While I disagree with OP, I'm loath to go down the anti-Semitic road on this one.
CincyDem
Nov 2023
#39
The government is not going to stop all the domestic violence because they are bought and paid for by
madinmaryland
Nov 2023
#12
I know the OP is highly respected around here with a much, much longer history than me.
BlueCheeseAgain
Nov 2023
#40
That's the perfect recipe for putting Trump in office, then we won't have to worry about
Maru Kitteh
Nov 2023
#56
But the US does not supply weapons to Hamas (aid yes) so their attempted genocide will continue
EX500rider
Nov 2023
#77
No, we can't. There's a lot of things that the US government and US media likes
RockRaven
Nov 2023
#79
Not to mention the military aid is a two way street, cutting them off invites our being cut off
Amishman
Nov 2023
#90
While we are arguing over terms like pogram and genocide, can somebody tell me when the killing and dying will stop?
Chainfire
Nov 2023
#147