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themaguffin

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66. No, you're missing the point

Reply to MyNameIsJonas (Reply #41)

Fri Nov 10, 2023, 02:59 PM

Nov 2023

I know that polls are released a year out. Hell, they're released even before that.

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Was the purpose of the sketchy NYT polling release to suppress Dem voter turnout this week? [View all] themaguffin Nov 2023 OP

Yup. Lots of polling these days seem to be little more than ratfucking. FSogol Nov 2023 #1

Ratfucking? Sorry, I don't know that one. NCIndie Nov 2023 #4

Ratfucking is an American slang term for political sabotage or dirty tricks, particularly pertaining to elections. FSogol Nov 2023 #11

My fellow submariners and I invented a card game we called RF EYESORE 9001 Nov 2023 #13

The NY Times? Political sabotage? NCIndie Nov 2023 #17

See: "Roger Stone" ratfucker flamingdem Nov 2023 #52

Deleting this as it could be misunderstood. padfun Nov 2023 #28

First of all, you get a rat. Sneederbunk Nov 2023 #42

Ah. Literal and not metaphorical. NCIndie Nov 2023 #46

Careful what you ask for... GreenWave Nov 2023 #61

TV news should rename their programs. Like, CBS Morning Polls Walleye Nov 2023 #2

Polling isn't perfect. That's why statistics exist. NCIndie Nov 2023 #3

Many people also don't understand margin of error. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #12

It's worse than that. NCIndie Nov 2023 #22

Did the NYT report that the results were skewed when they published? redqueen Nov 2023 #31

You just mentioned... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #33

No, because they also released the distribution of the respondents. NCIndie Nov 2023 #45

No,.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #48

The level of evidence required for a court conviction is pretty high. NCIndie Nov 2023 #60

That level of evidence rarely exists... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #64

I agree completely. NCIndie Nov 2023 #65

Fortunately, many DUers are proactive not reactive. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2023 #83

Amusingly, dpibel Nov 2023 #90

On a discussion board? dpibel Nov 2023 #80

"Released" as in, you can get it if you dig dpibel Nov 2023 #81

Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #78

It does have to wear on a person dpibel Nov 2023 #82

Couldn't have been better timed. Kid Berwyn Nov 2023 #5

My guess also!! Peacetrain Nov 2023 #6

Right Wing Media yankee87 Nov 2023 #7

there isn't enough focus on the increased manipulation of these polls bigtree Nov 2023 #8

I don't think so. shrike3 Nov 2023 #9

There's also other polls that show him losing. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #19

So, there's a mixture in the polls. shrike3 Nov 2023 #25

Wouldn't a good definition of... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #34

Well. Sometimes the narrative isn't deliberate. shrike3 Nov 2023 #39

Thanks.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #44

Again, I'm not privy to what goes on in elite newsrooms. shrike3 Nov 2023 #49

If Biden Rebl2 Nov 2023 #40

Oh, I agree. shrike3 Nov 2023 #51

Figures Rebl2 Nov 2023 #88

Because the polls that show Biden leading are not well-known. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #43

The "Biden should drop out, Biden is too old, Democrats are nervous," narrative started long before these polls. shrike3 Nov 2023 #50

They started when that one poll a couple months ago that had 70% Americans who said Biden was too old. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #70

Nope. Narrative started long before that. shrike3 Nov 2023 #75

lol who cares when it started? MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #92

Darlin', you said "Biden is too old" started a couple of months ago. shrike3 Nov 2023 #96

Honey, you brought it up first. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #97

Aw, glad you like endearments, too. shrike3 Nov 2023 #99

Poll rso Nov 2023 #55

Yes. That was the last poll that had Biden up in PA - but it's not from last week. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #69

True - links to poll numbers womanofthehills Nov 2023 #84

Here are the other polls this week womanofthehills Nov 2023 #98

Biden's people have their work cut out for them. shrike3 Nov 2023 #100

NYTpoll, other bogus reporting was setting path for No Labels and Manchin. blm Nov 2023 #10

Explain why they'd want to. brooklynite Nov 2023 #14

Horse race. dchill Nov 2023 #76

Where was the "horse race" in Tuesday's election? brooklynite Nov 2023 #77

Not everything advocated has an obvious result. dchill Nov 2023 #85

Not everything is a conspiracy brooklynite Nov 2023 #91

It's not a conspiracy. dchill Nov 2023 #93

Suppressing turnout is good for clicks? brooklynite Nov 2023 #94

Evidently. dchill Nov 2023 #95

Bingo Emile Nov 2023 #15

No lol. It's very common for a slew of polls to be released a year out from an election. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #16

I'm referring to the 2024 polling released just prior to the elections this past Tuesday, given the "bad" numbers for themaguffin Nov 2023 #20

I know what you're referring to. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #41

No, you're missing the point themaguffin Nov 2023 #66

I think you're confused by your own point. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #71

Ok, you missed my point themaguffin Nov 2023 #73

The problem with conspiracy theories is that they have a tendency to grow... brooklynite Nov 2023 #18

+1 NCIndie Nov 2023 #23

Yep... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #35

That seems about right Blue Owl Nov 2023 #21

The voting on Tuesday had very little to do with Biden. honest.abe Nov 2023 #24

Well hopefully they will realize all the rights Tree Lady Nov 2023 #30

That is precisely what we need to focus on for 2024. honest.abe Nov 2023 #67

Why didn't the poll pick that up? gab13by13 Nov 2023 #58

The polling was about Biden vs Trump not about abortion rights. honest.abe Nov 2023 #68

What do you mean polls didn't pick that up? MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #72

Any bandwagon effect is real but narrative cannot dictate an outcome bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #26

Psychological manipulation... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #36

Wouldn't surprise me. calimary Nov 2023 #27

pandering to the right DoBW Nov 2023 #29

Sketchy polls are designed to confuse and mislead. jaxexpat Nov 2023 #32

If you're into nutty conspiracies... Basic LA Nov 2023 #37

Totally dislike posts that call polls "reality". LakeArenal Nov 2023 #38

I wonder what President Dewey thought of polls? 303squadron Nov 2023 #47

I noticed Joe "No Labels" Mancin got right out there with his announcement CanonRay Nov 2023 #53

Doubt seriously the NYT's poll was designed to suppress Dem vote. Silent Type Nov 2023 #54

Why? gab13by13 Nov 2023 #59

Why do you think so? I just don't think the polls are as nefarious as some. You might not like the poll, Silent Type Nov 2023 #63

Poll rso Nov 2023 #56

Is there any evidence to support that? Kaleva Nov 2023 #57

Polls are a means to push propaganda. gab13by13 Nov 2023 #62

Take a look at the polling summary brooklynite Nov 2023 #74

+1 Celerity Nov 2023 #87

Yep. 58Sunliner Nov 2023 #79

"to suppress Dem voter turnout this week" Takket Nov 2023 #86

No. Celerity Nov 2023 #89