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Sympthsical

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16. Because oppression ideology is reductive
Sun Nov 12, 2023, 11:01 AM
Nov 2023

They can only see the oppressed and the oppressor.

If you acknowledge that the oppressed can be oppressors, well, that's a very complicated and uncomfortable thought. It creates dissonance. It's easier just to pretend the issue isn't complex. Acknowledging complexity would wreck the slogans, and without slogans, what are they going to put on the signs? No no. It's far, far easier to have villains and victims. Victims cannot be villains. There. Solved. Whew.

Then you have the actual antisemites, those who tacitly support them, or those who remain quiet because they're trying to protect their ideology from the problems above or just never gave virtue signaling very much thought. "Anti-racist meant being against all racism? When did that start?!"

Jews and Israel cannot be victims in either the ideological or the racist scenarios I just laid out.

So, the hostages don't exist. Hamas doesn't exist. Antisemitism either doesn't exist or isn't a problem to these people. And Gazans are not and cannot be oppressed by anyone other than Israel, and they certainly cannot have any blame, circumstance, or crime laid at their feet.

Otherwise, one's head might start to hurt, and then questions will have to be asked. And questions lead to apostasy.

It's gross all around.

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Because they sympathize with Hamas. nt LexVegas Nov 2023 #1
Some blur the distinction between sympathy for Palestinians and sympathy for Hamas Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #4
Hatred runs deep ColinC Nov 2023 #59
Yes it does n/t FHRRK Nov 2023 #74
The brutal attack on Israel is not important to them. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #2
Protesters ARE demanding a cease-fire. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #3
Of course they are. How many are loudly calling out Hamas for holding kidnapped civilians? Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #5
The key obstacle to a ceasefire... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #7
I wouldn't either after Hamas broke the latest cease fire October 7th jimfields33 Nov 2023 #10
You really think Hamas would honor a ceasefire? mcar Nov 2023 #29
Hamas doesn't seem interested in a ceasefire. rollin74 Nov 2023 #35
You seem to be avoiding the question asked here XorXor Nov 2023 #36
I can't decide if your username or sig line is more ironic TheProle Nov 2023 #42
hamas doesn't care about harming civilians... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #47
uhh... get out of there and go where? lapfog_1 Nov 2023 #102
After this, therefore because of this. Torchlight Nov 2023 #65
Hamas attacked Israel Dorian Gray Nov 2023 #99
My first reaction was 'you're right, that should be a protest.' lostnfound Nov 2023 #49
Yes, on one level at least it is a tacit acknowledgement Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #64
Really? claudette Nov 2023 #94
The US killed 100,000 in a single night in a horrible fire, mostly women and children lostnfound Nov 2023 #105
So you're claudette Nov 2023 #106
No, They Are Demanding That Israel Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #14
hamas doesn't care about public demands or getting anyone's sympathy. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #48
Yes, they are. And they're demanding it from Israel. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #22
Israel actually IS... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #50
I largely agree with this Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #68
I believe you may be... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #69
Injecting myself into the conversation (sorry!), but.... LauraInLA Nov 2023 #76
I agree that that is anti-semitism... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #81
No, I'm not. I recognize that there is a meaningful distinction between the two Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #87
And so you feel that... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #89
Where did I say that? Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #92
What? Calculating Nov 2023 #70
I believe you have gotten posts mixed up.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #71
So, just eradicate everyone in Gaza? Bettie Nov 2023 #72
Why hasn't Israel sent in teams to kidnap the top leaders of Hamas who live in Qatar and use them as Autumn Nov 2023 #6
THAT is the best idea I've heard yet! Think. Again. Nov 2023 #8
They are billionaires, move freely around Qatar. Should be easy enough for Israel's elite Autumn Nov 2023 #9
If Justice were the only issue that possibly would work Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #12
I take issue with you blaming protesters. If it weren't for protestors we would not Autumn Nov 2023 #18
If I wasn't clear enough let me try again Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #19
All I'm going to say is that there have been protests where they had signs calling for the release of the Autumn Nov 2023 #20
That's what I WOULD LOVE to see lostnfound Nov 2023 #51
Israel, sending heavily armed special forces, into an Arab nation NickB79 Nov 2023 #45
Yeah, cuz no one... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #53
Covert or not, Arab nations would scream bloody murder NickB79 Nov 2023 #55
Yeah, cuz no one ever heard of plausible deniability. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #58
Lol, right NickB79 Nov 2023 #60
What I realized a while ago is that... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #62
This is real life, not an action movie. Ace Rothstein Nov 2023 #100
Which is why I don't understand... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #104
A just cause and just act. Thats worth a lot. Nt lostnfound Nov 2023 #54
That's what should have been done in the first place ecstatic Nov 2023 #11
Yeah because they all play by the same rules right? Not. Bev54 Nov 2023 #38
Because They Don't Know Where They Are Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #13
Of course, everyone is a pawn in Bibi's war. He doesn't want any end to this war. It doesn't matter if Autumn Nov 2023 #15
There would be at least 30 threads EllieBC Nov 2023 #21
Because doing so would cause one hell of an international incident. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #24
Yeah unlike what is going on now? Bibi is losing support daily. Autumn Nov 2023 #28
Yes, very unlike what is going on now. Much, much worse for everyone than what's going on now. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #30
That's why they should be talking behind the scenes ecstatic Nov 2023 #39
"That's why they should be talking behind the scenes with officials in Qatar." Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #40
However, as long as they are involved in a war Bettie Nov 2023 #73
Terrible for relations with Qatar. Frasier Balzov Nov 2023 #37
Because oppression ideology is reductive Sympthsical Nov 2023 #16
+1 Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #17
I'm in the middle of a whole college sociology thing Sympthsical Nov 2023 #27
Rec this, too, a thousand times ;) LauraInLA Nov 2023 #78
K&R for you. This is worthy of its EllieBC Nov 2023 #23
Bingo. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #25
Yes. On other places I get the same responses even I ask JI7 Nov 2023 #90
"Now they are also saying the hostages were treated well and they had a good time." Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #98
Excellent summation. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #34
I wish I could rec this post a thousand times!!! EOM LauraInLA Nov 2023 #77
I agree pinkstarburst Nov 2023 #26
But claudette Nov 2023 #32
Why are there hostages at all ? JI7 Nov 2023 #91
It was reported claudette Nov 2023 #93
Israel released prisoner before and they ended up taking part in attacks on Israel JI7 Nov 2023 #95
Yes claudette Nov 2023 #96
You claimed Hamas didn't want to see dead Palestinians JI7 Nov 2023 #97
Never claudette Nov 2023 #103
Maybe claudette Nov 2023 #31
But you can trust Hamas, right? EllieBC Nov 2023 #33
I didn't say that claudette Nov 2023 #43
Uh, because their charter calls for the destruction of Israel? NickB79 Nov 2023 #46
Why should they be expected to keep their word to terrorists? ripcord Nov 2023 #56
Is it just me ripcord Nov 2023 #41
The comment above you certainly does JI7 Nov 2023 #44
Not just you at all. EllieBC Nov 2023 #52
Would you mind... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #57
It is not a mainstream position, certainly not in the U.S. Tom Rinaldo Nov 2023 #66
I am curious to see if Ripcord has actually seen ... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #67
It's just you. Not one member of DU believes that. nt Autumn Nov 2023 #61
It's just you lostnfound Nov 2023 #63
Bulldozing the homes of the families of suspected "terrorists" is a war crime, so why.... RussellCattle Nov 2023 #80
There are definitely some on Team Hamas. Ace Rothstein Nov 2023 #101
Protest for peace. Cease fire is pro-Hamas so they can rebuild. keithbvadu2 Nov 2023 #75
The nonnegotiable conditions for any ceasefire TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #79
4000 vs 'dozens' enid602 Nov 2023 #82
So you support TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #83
Right now enid602 Nov 2023 #84
That's what Hamas supports TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #85
Fish in a barrel enid602 Nov 2023 #86
You are really good at ignoring the question TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #88
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