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Nanjeanne

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3. I am not involved in their political body and certainly not a part of Netanyahu's inner circle so I really think
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 05:12 PM
Nov 2023

your question is above my pay grade.

Here's my best guess. Nothing Israel is doing now will get rid of Hamas. If every Hamas person is killed - something will always come to take their place. You don't murder every single person and think that the children of those who survive being collateral damage will embrace Netanyahu's way. That's what many people believe - so while I may be an aging peacenik from long ago --- obviously I'm not alone in my thinking.

So -

Peace is negotiation. Freeing hostages is negotiation. You don't make peace with your friends. You make peace with your enemies. You cannot have peace with unequal rights. Perhaps new leaders in both Israel and among Palestinians can find a way. Perhaps we look at how peace and the end of apartheid came to South Africa. Perhaps we look at the resolution of the conflict in Northern Ireland and the Joint Declaration of Peace in 1993.

Perhaps they shift the paradigm. Perhaps a rights-based approach that espouses universal values and norms would help. Perhaps the United States has a real role to play in working towards a rights-based solution. A military occupation isn't going to do it.

...Edited to say - this was a post of hope. It was a post of respect for humanity. It was a post of gratitude for those Israeli and Palestinians who want to work towards peace. It was for those people who feel beaten down by the endless stream of man's inhumanity to man. It once again devolved into something it never was intended for. So sad.

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How will a peace settlement between Israel and Palestine stop Hamas from future attacks... brooklynite Nov 2023 #1
I am not involved in their political body and certainly not a part of Netanyahu's inner circle so I really think Nanjeanne Nov 2023 #3
You can negotiate with the Palestinian Authority. You cannot negotiate with Hamas. brooklynite Nov 2023 #4
Gee it's too bad that netanyahu and his ultra far right buddies made sure Hamas were in charge of Gaza then redqueen Nov 2023 #6
The Palestinian Authority didn't help... brooklynite Nov 2023 #7
OK. I'll tell Qatar to stop negotiating with Hamas and Israel. US too was involved in ongoing negotiations. But what Nanjeanne Nov 2023 #9
Its been a month since Israeli civilians were killed or taken hostage... brooklynite Nov 2023 #10
Yes well maybe the Israeli families of hostages that are marching for 5 days from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem chanting Nanjeanne Nov 2023 #11
"They aren't chanting bombs away." brooklynite Nov 2023 #12
For **** sake who said they were? You said there's no negotiating with Hamas. They beg to differ. Nanjeanne Nov 2023 #13
Just an FYI: inputting the link into archive.ph will make it visible. LauraInLA Nov 2023 #14
Thanks. Not sure what that means but I'll explore it 😂 Nanjeanne Nov 2023 #15
Sorry -- here's more detail LauraInLA Nov 2023 #16
But Hamas had already said there can be no peace with Israel. totodeinhere Nov 2023 #5
Few people in the US understand how politically diverse Israel is. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #2
"more diverse and more democratic than any in the Middle East." LexVegas Nov 2023 #8
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