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moniss

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12. Something akin to waving

Tue Nov 14, 2023, 06:35 PM

Nov 2023

the bloody shirt. Of course there should be nothing but condemnation for what was done on 10/7. But is this video an appeal to emotion or is it something that supports reasoned discussion and deliberation going forward? It is a straw man argument to talk about equivalence when either side could go tit for tat back through over 100 years. 10/7 was not "justified" in any way shape or form by what came before nor is the massive bombing of a captive, dense population of mainly children justified by 10/7.

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House members left in stunned disbelief, horror by video of Hamas' attack on Israel [View all] Fozzledick Nov 2023 OP

Now show them what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinian people. flying_wahini Nov 2023 #1

Gee, why could that possibly be happening? Fozzledick Nov 2023 #3

There is *no* moral equivalence. None. intrepidity Nov 2023 #4

show what Israel was doing to Gaza on Oct 6, 2023 lapfog_1 Nov 2023 #5

People are certainly free to make their own videos and show them. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2023 #7

I am all for transparency so let's show them everything. totodeinhere Nov 2023 #9

What you should do is invade with an army and fight Hamas face-to-face and hand-to-hand to avoid civilian casualties. Martin68 Nov 2023 #15

My thoughts are along the same line as yours. slightlv Nov 2023 #20

Thank you for your very civil and reasonable response. totodeinhere Nov 2023 #23

Hamas wants to eradicate jews and Israel. Read their charter, FFS. elias7 Nov 2023 #16

Yes, Hamas is evil. Are all Palestinians evil? Do they all deserve to die? Martin68 Nov 2023 #30

Seems so many have somewhat forgotten the precipitating event intrepidity Nov 2023 #2

They haven't forgotten it. They think it was justified. JI7 Nov 2023 #6

Yes we witnessed a masterful propaganda strategy right away. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #8

Do you question the truth of the video footage Congress viewed? I believe we all need to face the truth. Martin68 Nov 2023 #13

I refuse to be drawn into Putin's well planned propaganda campaign. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #19

OK, now I'm concerned. Or maybe amused. I mean, this sounds like a joke, and it's pretty funny. Martin68 Nov 2023 #24

Ad hominum attacks indicate a very weak argument. Irish_Dem Nov 2023 #29

Only if they are unfounded. Martin68 Nov 2023 #34

"jumped down the rabbi hole" JoseBalow Nov 2023 #36

Actually, that was genuinely a typo. I apologize for that. Martin68 Nov 2023 #41

+1000 GuppyGal Nov 2023 #26

Man, some people get salty when Hamas gets bad press. nt LexVegas Nov 2023 #10

Sure do mcar Nov 2023 #18

I guess it bears repeating. What Hamas did is unforgivable. But it does not give Israel license to bomb the civilian Martin68 Nov 2023 #11

(lebensraum) JoseBalow Nov 2023 #17

About as subtle sarisataka Nov 2023 #21

Not very subtle for anyone who knows their history. Martin68 Nov 2023 #25

No, it isn't. JoseBalow Nov 2023 #27

I think someone went out of their way madaboutharry Nov 2023 #31

I'm afraid we have entered a new era in which fascism is a real danger. Refusing to acknowledge that puts us Martin68 Nov 2023 #33

You used a term from Nazi Germany to describe Israel? BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2023 #22

Just look at the facts. Military dominance over neighbors, a demonized ethnic group, gradual incursion on the Martin68 Nov 2023 #28

Your post would have been better without the gratuitous Nazi reference. madaboutharry Nov 2023 #32

I suggest you take the fascist aspect very, very seriously. Netanyahu is trying to gain complete control over the Martin68 Nov 2023 #35

Nazism is a step further. madaboutharry Nov 2023 #37

That's very obvious JoseBalow Nov 2023 #38

Holocaust inversion. Behind the Aegis Nov 2023 #39

I never used the word Nazism, and I find it offensive that you would suggest I did. Italy and Japan Martin68 Nov 2023 #42

I didn't say you used the word Nazism. You used the word "Lebensraum" madaboutharry Nov 2023 #43

You are stretching the point beyond credibility. You seem a bit confused about the meaning of fascism. Martin68 Nov 2023 #44

Something akin to waving moniss Nov 2023 #12

TY for this.. I wouldn't be able to watch. :( Cha Nov 2023 #14

Both sides orangecrush Nov 2023 #40