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In reply to the discussion: 68% of US Public Wants Gaza Cease-Fire: Poll - Reuters/Ipsos [View all]MyNameIsJonas
(744 posts)A low response, maybe measured in its action, is what you wanted. I totally understand. But again, it's either coming from a place of naivete or support of Hamas continuing to exist knowing they'll continue doing events similar to 10/7 because that's what they've said they want to do - multiple times in fact.
The only right response is to end Hamas. That's it. There is no middle ground. So, those who feel there is an outcome where Hamas retreats and keeps its existence is again either based in ignorance, as they're approaching this situation similar to previous Hamas attacks (which it was not by any stretch of the measure) or they want Hamas to continue to exist because they support their actions against Israel and ultimately want Israel wiped off the face of the earth, as Hamas has stated is their goal.
That's the reality. Any call for a ceasefire is not compatible with the idea of peace because we've already seen Hamas does not respect a ceasefire. So, ignoring those who are naive to the situation and have hope that both sides can coexist (which isn't reality but hey, they're at least coming from an argument of peace), the only other people calling for a ceasefire have no interest in Israel existing or Jewish lives being protected. I can say that so emphatically because a ceasefire was broken on 10/7 with horrific results, children massacred, hostages taken (who are still being held hostage btw) and the response to Israel reacting is to call another ceasefire.
Again, these people want Israel to not decimate Hamas.
Well Hamas has got to go. They've proven that ceasefires don't work and that they're ready to move beyond just spats and into horrific massacres.
They want every inch of Israel wiped off the map. You can't support a ceasefire with a group who has made that their mission - no more than you could have supported a ceasefire with Hitler in the 1940s.