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Big Blue Marble

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45. It is really dangerous to call any group subhuman

Wed Nov 15, 2023, 07:35 PM

Nov 2023

no matter what they have done. And certainly ridiculous to call them animals as no animal species
kills millions of their own kind. That is a human specialty. They are actually acting as humans have
done for at least, thousands of years. We would all hope better of ourselves, but we keep repeating
the violence with more and more powerful weapons.

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Is it a war crime to use civilians as human shields? [View all] yardwork Nov 2023 OP

Yes nt sarisataka Nov 2023 #1

Yes. lapucelle Nov 2023 #2

Corollary: would it be a war crime if Israel did it? yardwork Nov 2023 #3

In the past, Israel has used human shields. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #6

Do you think it's a war crime to use civilians as human shields? yardwork Nov 2023 #7

Yes, of course. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #8

Good question. yardwork Nov 2023 #9

Of course, it is not a fight for Israel's survival. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #43

Those are a lot of assumptions. yardwork Nov 2023 #47

Name the assumptions. N/T Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #55

It's worth considering that it's not JUST Hamas in this equation. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #51

Without much expertise, I still feel fairly confident that Hamas has help. yardwork Nov 2023 #62

The anti-Israel propaganda machine has been in full swing since I was in college in 1981. SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #63

I see where you're coming from, though I don't agree. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #64

I'm not discounting antisemitism. yardwork Nov 2023 #65

They are quite literally embedded with the people and hate to break it to you but they enjoy PLENTY of support GuppyGal Nov 2023 #60

It is, but shame on you for asking! Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #4

I know, right?! yardwork Nov 2023 #5

And the person who said Israel has done it is antisemitic! Clash City Rocker Nov 2023 #77

Has done what? And what the person are you referring to? Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #79

Does a war crime justify another war crime in response? meadowlander Nov 2023 #10

Are you saying Israel is intentionally killing civilians in order to get to Hamas fighters? brooklynite Nov 2023 #11

I'm saying that they still have responsibility for the effects of the choices that they are making. meadowlander Nov 2023 #13

When did they bomb a hospital to get to the tunnels underneath? EX500rider Nov 2023 #19

Since we don't know any real details and only have broad theoreticals... yardwork Nov 2023 #20

Now do the same analysis for Gaza. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #44

Israel is at war. yardwork Nov 2023 #46

Are you excusing this incredible number of causalities in 5 weeks with more to come? Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #54

Hostages..........remember them? Just thought I'd give ya a lil reminder GuppyGal Nov 2023 #59

I'm not excusing anything. War is war. yardwork Nov 2023 #61

Hanas started this phase of a "war" that has been going on since Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #67

No. This is not an accurate summation. yardwork Nov 2023 #70

How is it inaccurate? N/T Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #71

Nobody move Kennah Nov 2023 #50

Hamas is nothing but animals William769 Nov 2023 #12

This sounds like my Reich wing neighbors redqueen Nov 2023 #14

Did I hit a little to close to home? William769 Nov 2023 #16

If you're insinuating that I'm a Hamas supporter redqueen Nov 2023 #18

Just as you are insinuating that I'm a "Reich wing neighbors'. William769 Nov 2023 #21

Lol no, I'm saying the language is the same. redqueen Nov 2023 #23

The who me defense? I would have thought better coming from you. William769 Nov 2023 #25

Well that's too bad, because like it or not they are still people. redqueen Nov 2023 #26

Not really Mossfern Nov 2023 #81

It is really dangerous to call any group subhuman Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #45

Thank you redqueen Nov 2023 #74

Then how would you describe them? GuppyGal Nov 2023 #56

all humans are 'nothing but animals' Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #32

I don't know anyone who claudette Nov 2023 #53

Of course it is. Is there a debate about it? Nanjeanne Nov 2023 #15

To my surprise, yes, apparently there is. yardwork Nov 2023 #17

"The use of human shields is a war crime23451, as it violates.. Cha Nov 2023 #22

One phrase jumped out at me: yardwork Nov 2023 #24

"The party responsible for the death of human shields is the one deploying them, " Cha Nov 2023 #27

Interesting inthewind21 Nov 2023 #31

"Typical" of what? It was on the Front page of Google.. Cha Nov 2023 #37

"Unless the attacker is the IDF" DavidDvorkin Nov 2023 #28

Well you know what "they" can do with Cha Nov 2023 #30

Proportionate is in the eye of the beholder... TheRealNorth Nov 2023 #33

I don't think anyone here... Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #42

The 'bunker buster'' Mossfern Nov 2023 #69

If it kill a bunch if innocent people TheRealNorth Nov 2023 #72

It's the bad guy Mossfern Nov 2023 #73

Thats a cop out TheRealNorth Nov 2023 #78

*MY* actions? Mossfern Nov 2023 #80

Hey Cha, Eko Nov 2023 #29

Sorry.. it was on the front page of Google.. Cha Nov 2023 #35

No problem, I figured it was something weird. Eko Nov 2023 #36

TY.. I have someone up thread telling Cha Nov 2023 #38

Well, Eko Nov 2023 #39

Thank you so much for that.. Backatcha! Cha Nov 2023 #41

Unless they are black/brown. Judging by history, that is just fine. onecaliberal Nov 2023 #34

Another post on the Front Page of Google.. citing Yes It's Against the Law! Cha Nov 2023 #40

Haven't armies disappeared into civilian infrastructure in EVERY recent war? WarGamer Nov 2023 #48

Not at all uncommon Chautauquas Nov 2023 #66

Sooner the better LiberaBlueDem Nov 2023 #49

Is it a war crime to claudette Nov 2023 #52

Fucking Santos/Devolder or whatever the fuck his name is Blue Owl Nov 2023 #57

Its a war crime just like Hamas committed on October 7th when they also broke the cease fire. GuppyGal Nov 2023 #58

They still have protection as civilians Army Brat Nov 2023 #68

Is it a war crime to falsely justify attacking civilians by claiming they are being used as human shields? Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #75

It is a war crime to bomb hospitals malaise Nov 2023 #76