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Fiendish Thingy

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7. Denial, or critical thinking? Let's focus on the stakes, not the odds
Mon Nov 20, 2023, 10:51 AM
Nov 2023

MacCaskill’s warning is based on accepting polls a year from an election, overweighted for Republicans, as accurate predictions of the sentiment of the electorate next November.

What segment of the electorate is she warning is being ignored? White, uneducated, “economically anxious” boomers who hang out in swing state diners?

Polls showing a 20+ point swing in voter sentiment, especially in subgroups of POC and young voters, towards Trump, should be ignored, especially when compared to actual election results over the past 6-12 months in places like VA, OH, KY and KS.

If the NYT suddenly released a poll showing the majority of voters supported a national ban on abortion with no exceptions, would you believe it?

Remember the flood of flawed, shitty polls in October 2022 predicting a Red Tsunami? The also predicted 20+% swings in voter sentiment towards Republicans. Accepting those polls as accurate, and incorporating them into 538’s prediction model cost Nate Silver his job.

2024 will likely be another close election in the EC, decided by the turnout of POC and Young voters, just as it was in 2020.

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Not fake but maybe as reliable as that recession you kept saying was almost certain to happen. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #1
I din't say a recession was coming; I reported what my financial planner said. brooklynite Nov 2023 #3
Yes, you're reporting multiple times about this pending recession. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #12
Bravo BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #18
Define "hopeful" brooklynite Nov 2023 #21
Polls are one of the main sources of propaganda, gab13by13 Nov 2023 #2
They're not propaganda if the findings are true. brooklynite Nov 2023 #5
McCaskill is one of the last people Dems should take advice from Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #4
Translation: "let's ignore anyone who says things we don't agree with" brooklynite Nov 2023 #6
Denial, or critical thinking? Let's focus on the stakes, not the odds Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #7
'MacCaskill's warning is based on accepting polls a year from an election" brooklynite Nov 2023 #8
Spelling doesn't alter the point of my post Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #9
Who said anything about "moving to the center" or "do a 180"? brooklynite Nov 2023 #11
And how exactly do we address his alleged age and vigor problem? Elessar Zappa Nov 2023 #13
What would you have the Biden campaign do differently? Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #14
I agree with her. Don't take anything for granted. shrike3 Nov 2023 #10
Joe Biden is facing a near-historic deficit for an incumbent TheProle Nov 2023 #15
There is a vast difference between "taking any segment of our vote for granted" Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #16
If the polls do not model increased turnout for women, Qutzupalotl Nov 2023 #17
Exactly, women are going to worry about what the fuck happens half a world away much less than their own crotch. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #20
Why would you say all polls are fake? What are you talking about? SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #19
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