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GuppyGal

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66. The Populace. Maybe you think Hamas and their 'arms' operate in a vacuum but they have families, friends etc

Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:43 PM

Dec 2023

and we've been through this already ...if you care to research you'll see that Hamas enjoys support among their people and it's across all walks of life. In addition, if any support for them has waned for them in recent years, it has nothing to do with Israeli relations but social services. They are indoctrinated for goodness sakes, the childrens shows are Kill Israel and death to America. That's reality.

I don't love that they are being bombed but Egypt should of taken in these people at least the women and children!!! That's what happens in war - people flee to neighboring/other countries but nobody is having that and no onus is on those muthafuckas and I don't appreciate it and nobody except for me it seems is saying shit about that.

Until someone or some party or parties emerge over there with some sense and SOME LOVE we ain't gonna get nowhere !!!
And I'm not excusing any of Israel's bad actions either but I will not do any false equivalences and compare the two in any way.
Whatever little credibility you think Israel has well Hamas has negative a million times less.

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Israel orders more people in crowded southern Gaza to evacuate as heavy bombardment shifts there [View all] David__77 Dec 2023 OP

Where. Are. They. Supposed. To. Go. n/t leftstreet Dec 2023 #1

Why isn't Egypt mzmolly Dec 2023 #2

Why can't they stay in their homes? n/t leftstreet Dec 2023 #4

Israel could have opened a humanitarian corridor at the start of this. David__77 Dec 2023 #8

From your article. mzmolly Dec 2023 #19

They can. But it's a bit mzmolly Dec 2023 #14

Why should Egypt take Israel's refugees? David__77 Dec 2023 #5

Humanitarian reasons? mzmolly Dec 2023 #17

They do not want to abet ethnic cleansing. Israel is responsible. David__77 Dec 2023 #18

Israel is responsible. As is Hamas. mzmolly Dec 2023 #20

I understand that they do not want to facilitate ethnic cleansing. David__77 Dec 2023 #21

It's the opposite. mzmolly Dec 2023 #23

Ok we disagree that that population transfer would constitute ethnic cleansing. David__77 Dec 2023 #25

I think if I were in Gaza with my family I'd want a safe mzmolly Dec 2023 #27

They don't want HAMAS and their enablers in their country. PERIOD...no wrath left in ya for them huh nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #54

Who are their "enablers"? David__77 Dec 2023 #56

The Populace. Maybe you think Hamas and their 'arms' operate in a vacuum but they have families, friends etc GuppyGal Dec 2023 #66

Including the babies? David__77 Dec 2023 #68

I've answered this already GuppyGal Dec 2023 #73

Disturbing mzmolly Dec 2023 #79

Why should they? claudette Dec 2023 #9

They should because the reality is, mzmolly Dec 2023 #12

Whose reality? claudette Dec 2023 #22

So innocent Palestinians should be killed while the world watches mzmolly Dec 2023 #24

Of course not claudette Dec 2023 #29

I agree its' a horrible situation. But mzmolly Dec 2023 #57

Israel can be pressured DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2023 #92

What happens to Hamas mzmolly Dec 2023 #93

"Bitching about" annihilation... David__77 Dec 2023 #41

Nice spin. How about allowing annihilation mzmolly Dec 2023 #53

WHY WOULDN'T THEY ...is the question - they won't even take in women and children...WHY? NT GuppyGal Dec 2023 #55

It's a problem created by Israel. They have to solve it. brush Dec 2023 #35

The facts are what they are. mzmolly Dec 2023 #52

And again, it's on Israel to stop bombing where they told the Palestinians to go. brush Dec 2023 #60

We're in agreement on that. mzmolly Dec 2023 #61

There will be consequences. The Netanyahu/Likud government will be held accountable. brush Dec 2023 #64

Agree with you claudette Dec 2023 #80

They don't want to let them in due to security risks. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #47

But but but JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #71

It's Israel's self-created problem. They have to solve it...by not bombing where they told people to go to. brush Dec 2023 #83

Hamas should have thought of that before they attacked Israel on Oct. 7. totodeinhere Dec 2023 #34

So it's OK to kill innocent Palestinians? Butterflylady Dec 2023 #44

That's what happens in war. I'm sure everybody already knows this though but somehow it's like a new thing GuppyGal Dec 2023 #48

Not really claudette Dec 2023 #88

I am not going to explain to you yet again that it's HAMAS who has purposefully embedded itself in the population GuppyGal Dec 2023 #89

More of the claudette Dec 2023 #95

Thank fucking GOD GuppyGal Dec 2023 #97

So its ok for HAMAS to violate the cease fire in place and launch a terrorist attack in Jerusalem and fire Sal_NV Dec 2023 #49

A lot of people around here Bettie Dec 2023 #59

It is never okay when innocent civilians are killed. totodeinhere Dec 2023 #96

And, again claudette Dec 2023 #82

Are you implying what other people are implying? Mossfern Dec 2023 #98

Into the Mediterranean? Retrograde Dec 2023 #99

So horrific. Goddessartist Dec 2023 #3

It really is textbook ethnic cleansing obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #15

This has claudette Dec 2023 #6

Nuttyahoo and his minions also have "River to the Sea" aspirations. WarGamer Dec 2023 #10

Yes claudette Dec 2023 #11

'There are 2 million Nazis' in West Bank, says far-right Finance Minister Smotrich Celerity Dec 2023 #28

Dear claudette Dec 2023 #30

Evidently....so. Butterflylady Dec 2023 #45

Wow... move South so we can level the North... WarGamer Dec 2023 #7

It's sickening. Mandatory evacuation to the next place to be leveled. democrank Dec 2023 #32

How people don't blame Hamas over and over again is beyond me. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #50

The Jerusalem Post claimed thst dead baby was a doll obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #13

It's just adding insult to injury given the massive documentation available online. David__77 Dec 2023 #16

And they have yet to apologize to the grieving father. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #26

And HAMAS has yet to apologize to Israel for the murdering/raping/kidnapping of Israeli and foreign Sal_NV Dec 2023 #31

What does one have to do with the other? A grieving father had an article printed in a newspaper Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #33

You might well take your own advice. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #36

Seriously? I've never blamed Israel for anything other than what I believe to be the wrong way to resolve a conflict Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #77

I guess the point is to assert that there's equivalence between Jerusalem Post and Hamas. David__77 Dec 2023 #39

That's it I guess. This is such a sad place where hearts aren't big enough to include Israeli & Palestinian suffering. Nanjeanne Dec 2023 #78

They don't have to apologize, they get to say they want to do this again while folks call for a ceasefire GuppyGal Dec 2023 #58

And yet this is glossed over by certain people. nt Sal_NV Dec 2023 #62

It is bizarre. mzmolly Dec 2023 #63

If only Hamas had not broken the cease fire on November 30! lapucelle Dec 2023 #37

Something that keeps getting overlooked, excused or just plain ignored by some here. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #38

Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza, and it is Hamas who broke the cease fire on November 30. lapucelle Dec 2023 #40

The US can put Qatar on list of terrorism supporting states. David__77 Dec 2023 #42

Maybe Qatar should threaten to expel the billionaire terrorists lapucelle Dec 2023 #43

It seems to me that the US does not want that to happen. David__77 Dec 2023 #46

Why hasn't there been any outcry by the UN or protestors to free the people of Gaza lapucelle Dec 2023 #69

Perhaps the United States will raise that at the UN Security Council. David__77 Dec 2023 #70

That's just a minor detail...not even worthy of a mention GuppyGal Dec 2023 #51

Isn't it time we put some pressure on the billionaire terrorists living the high life in Qatar? lapucelle Dec 2023 #65

Where is the screaming at Egypt for not letting in at least women and children to take refuge? WHERE GuppyGal Dec 2023 #67

The vice president spoke very forcefully against the displacement of the population. David__77 Dec 2023 #72

I wouldn't have a good answer if I were you either. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #74

VP Harris spoke out against "forced relocation", not against people seeking refuge. lapucelle Dec 2023 #75

And to reply to this it's Israel IS WARNING PEOPLE to evacuate. Warning...I mean who does that? Say what you want GuppyGal Dec 2023 #76

Please tell me claudette Dec 2023 #81

Why won't Egypt take in the sick, elderly, terminally il,l women, and children? What about the other Arab GuppyGal Dec 2023 #84

Because then claudette Dec 2023 #85

That is the reason you give why Egypt won't take in the most vulnerable people on their border? GuppyGal Dec 2023 #86

No claudette Dec 2023 #87

Their warnings are more like a taunt since there is no where safe to go questionseverything Dec 2023 #91

I think that's right: taunt. David__77 Dec 2023 #94

If only the elected government of Gaza had given similar warnings in October. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #90