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PeaceWave

(3,616 posts)
22. Thank you all for your thoughtful replies.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 02:40 PM
Dec 2023

I hardly ever post here. It took quite a bit for me to unload what I am observing within my own family. So, I would be remiss if I did not thank you all for not judging me. After reading your posts, I have one additional thing I would like to discuss. My family is of Guatemalan descent. My understanding is that there is a long history of good relations between Israel and Guatemala. I have read about Netanyahu saying that Guatemala Street is a common street name in Israel in thanks to Guatemala being one of the first countries to acknowledge Israel's independent statehood. Anecdotally from a much older family member, I know that many Jews lived in Guatemala as far back as the 1930's. I speculate these were primarily European refugees fleeing the Nazis. The family member I am concerned about suggested that this Jewish presence was somehow bad and that Israeli cooperation with Guatemala over the years was also bad. I think this is the root of why this person is now so easily condemning Israel. Where this family member ingested what I believe was misinformation I don't know...Possibly from his father, who collects biases like some folks collect stamps. I am left wondering if propaganda only takes root where fallow ground already exists - in which case the family member who I am concerned about isn't really the progressive he otherwise portrays himself to be. In terms of how I will deal with this, I don't yet know. I'm not the confrontational type. At the same time, I don't want to hold a grudge against this family member if Trump wins by a handful of votes and the world is left asking once more "How the F did this happen?" The first time Trump won, I did not have an answer to that question. This time around, I feel like I would have part of the answer. Something needs to be done - NOW. I need to say something to this family member - SOON. I hope that anyone else experiencing what I am experiencing realizes the seriousness of the matter. The very Democratic ideal for peace is being conflated with something sinister, something rooted in bias and misinformation - and it has the potential to tear us apart, not just as a Party but also as a family.

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I wouldn't bother H2O Man Dec 2023 #1
I don't think there is anything new about this person's views JI7 Dec 2023 #2
Text messages? Aussie105 Dec 2023 #3
I don't think the OP is "annoyed" because they've taken opposing sides. yardwork Dec 2023 #16
Propaganda Dorian Gray Dec 2023 #4
This might be the best advice. yardwork Dec 2023 #15
You might want to try sharing with them... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #5
If they are making comments about "Jewish political intervention"... Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #10
I'm not sure what you're referring to.... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #12
Did you read the OP? Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #13
No, I didn't miss that.. Think. Again. Dec 2023 #20
I would start by defending the Israeli people, not Netanyahu's policies, (which our own government hlthe2b Dec 2023 #6
Tell them the truth. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #7
So many have become useful idiots for Putin over the past two months! Axelrods_Typewriter Dec 2023 #8
So many Americans are happy to be on Putin's side. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #14
Yeah...their anti-semitism has been enabled. CincyDem Dec 2023 #9
I think it's true that this propaganda is enabled by pervasive antisemitic biases. yardwork Dec 2023 #19
Say your goodbyes? edisdead Dec 2023 #11
One thing you might try before giving up Mosby Dec 2023 #17
The propaganda campaign is so pervasive, the disinformation is everywhere now. yardwork Dec 2023 #18
What many people fail to realize is that WWIII is happening between their ears. CincyDem Dec 2023 #21
So true! People are allowing their judgment to be clouded by emotion and biases. yardwork Dec 2023 #23
Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. PeaceWave Dec 2023 #22
Efrain Rios Montt PufPuf23 Jan 26 #30
Maybe it's not about which side is right.... Chakaconcarne Dec 2023 #24
I have this dilemma with my daughter maxsolomon Dec 2023 #25
Well said. PeaceWave Dec 2023 #28
Well, I applaud the menu at least. Turkey, corn and squash are Native foods. maxsolomon Dec 2023 #29
Politics and religion and war shouldn't be discussed with family. LakeArenal Dec 2023 #26
deleated FraDon Dec 2023 #27
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