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maxsolomon

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19. I'm not going to say "but Hamas".

Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:40 PM

Dec 2023

I'm going to ask you if, due to the civilian death toll, Israel should:
1. forego using air power but continue attacking Hamas using ground forces
2. cease attacking Hamas entirely and withdraw from Gaza without their 10/7 hostages released

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IDF campaign in southern Gaza has created 'apocalyptic' conditions, top UN official says [View all] Celerity Dec 2023 OP

Hamas started the war and broke the ceasefire, they are responsible for this. tritsofme Dec 2023 #1

Hamas is responsible for breaking the cease-fire. They must be eliminated... brush Dec 2023 #2

How do you know Elind Dec 2023 #4

They've openly said the bombing has resumed in the south where they told... brush Dec 2023 #5

What's more to be said? Elind Dec 2023 #15

So - they have now killed 20,000 Palestinians womanofthehills Dec 2023 #18

Yes. AloeVera Dec 2023 #32

We've already heard from an IDF spokesman this morning that they are pleased that... brush Dec 2023 #35

IDF says... AloeVera Dec 2023 #36

Yeah, their ratio is BS. They don't care how many Palestinians they kill. brush Dec 2023 #44

Bibi is just an Israeli Trump Charging Triceratops Dec 2023 #53

Yes, and he's actually got more free reigh to carry out his inhumane policies right now because he's at war. brush Dec 2023 #54

that is so disgusting, but the worst part is the ratio is more like 10 or 20 to 1. ecstatic Dec 2023 #40

I know. Their ratio is false. They don't care how many non-combatants they kill. brush Dec 2023 #43

Where did Brush say any of that? obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #7

Neutanyu told the citizens to go Sourh womanofthehills Dec 2023 #17

Very well said obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #8

What a sad defense of the indefensible. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #3

If some choose to leave Hamas-run Gaza for these countries tritsofme Dec 2023 #6

Those countries aren't Elind Dec 2023 #11

The proposals floating around stipulate a large aid package. tritsofme Dec 2023 #12

"...but won't take any victims." Your words. You admit they're victims, but victims of what? It can't be anything else.. brush Dec 2023 #55

Sounds like you are advocating for forced ethnic cleansing, which (whether partial or full) is a clear war crime. Celerity Dec 2023 #14

No, I'm saying that voluntary emigration should not be obstructed tritsofme Dec 2023 #21

it is NOT voluntary if done under duress nt Celerity Dec 2023 #25

Ah... AloeVera Dec 2023 #37

I have no idea what you are going on about. Emigration is a word in the English language that has a meaning. tritsofme Dec 2023 #47

This is sick uponit7771 Dec 2023 #48

It is obvious; Gaza is their home. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #23

That would indeed be ethnic cleansing. The current military strategy is aligned with that approach. David__77 Dec 2023 #29

Omg. AloeVera Dec 2023 #33

seriously? Forced displacement is what you're advocating? ecstatic Dec 2023 #41

The goal Elind Dec 2023 #9

Netanyahu Plan to "Thin Out" Gaza Population to "Bare Minimum" Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #24

Miscalculation then? AloeVera Dec 2023 #38

"Moving" AKA ethnic cleansing. David__77 Dec 2023 #10

Says the abuser to the abused al bupp Dec 2023 #34

This is unconscionable. Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #13

I'm not going to say "but Hamas". maxsolomon Dec 2023 #19

Well claudette Dec 2023 #28

surprising. maxsolomon Dec 2023 #30

I agree with that answer. At least they could see up close who they're killing ecstatic Dec 2023 #42

Yes, but claudette Dec 2023 #57

I say "Fuck Genocidal HAMAS"! Cha Dec 2023 #20

Hamas is to blame, but they have sympathizers everywhere. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #16

You & others keep repeating the same old mantras, yet ignore the stone cold fact that Israel does NOT have a free, Celerity Dec 2023 #22

It Is Certainly True, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2023 #26

Yep, one Hamas goal is the eyes of the young and Bibi is helping them uponit7771 Dec 2023 #49

Yes the HAMAS Geochemical Butchers Cha Dec 2023 #31

And the numbers are made up anyway BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #50

I noticed it jumped from 14K to 20K the day after the ceasefire AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #51

This is claudette Dec 2023 #27

Not sitting silently AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #52

No matter how Israel responded they would be damned. The terrorists must go....sorry they are putting their GuppyGal Dec 2023 #39

Unfortunately Mossfern Dec 2023 #45

It's a hamster wheel of hell nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #46

DURec leftstreet Dec 2023 #56