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Docreed2003

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48. "All the sign" were not there early on...that's pure hindsight

Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:55 PM

Dec 2023

In the late 90's, I can assure you that "all the signs" were not there, at least from the way these drugs were being marketed and pushed on providers. OxyContin was literally being heralded as a miracle breakthrough in the management of chronic pain and they had their own data to back it up.

There's two reasons people in my class, like myself, were skeptical: a bunch of gen x'ers who question everything & the fact that many of us knew the street value of the shit per pill from our patients from working in the city charity hospital ER.

"All the signs" didn't become clear to most in the medical community until about a decade after Oxycontin's release and even then there were hold outs in the medical community who either claimed it was non-addicting or it was malpractice NOT to prescribe these drugs for chronic pain

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FUCK THE SACKLER FAMILY [View all] Stinky The Clown Dec 2023 OP

Yes, they did, and still doing it with all their $$$. elleng Dec 2023 #1

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Plain evil malaise Dec 2023 #2

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K&R...they absolutely did Docreed2003 Dec 2023 #13

The sales agents made claims. Igel Dec 2023 #28

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Imagine your own beautiful daughter DEAD because of all this. Now answer your own question. Stinky The Clown Dec 2023 #9

Have you had a loved one with terminal cancer? Mosby Dec 2023 #21

Yes, they have their place in treatment. I've been taking 5mg's of hydrocodone for 20 years Cheezoholic Dec 2023 #25

Yes. As I type this, yes. Stinky The Clown Dec 2023 #29

My then-MIL was in pain. Igel Dec 2023 #30

What if your beautiful daughter had to have major surgery? wryter2000 Dec 2023 #43

Why would that be the case? Stinky The Clown Dec 2023 #46

Because after major surgery wryter2000 Dec 2023 #53

My response to all that you just wrote is "duh". Of course people need opiates when indicated. Stinky The Clown Dec 2023 #54

So obtuse. n/t demmiblue Dec 2023 #10

See my reply below... Docreed2003 Dec 2023 #12

Let me tell you a true story, to answer part of your question Docreed2003 Dec 2023 #11

All the signs were there early on Ponietz Dec 2023 #45

That doesn't lessen the culpability of whathehell Dec 2023 #47

"All the sign" were not there early on...that's pure hindsight Docreed2003 Dec 2023 #48

Funny (not really) that no one actually addressed your questions (n/t) Seeking Serenity Dec 2023 #19

Actually, I think answer 11, directly above yours thucythucy Dec 2023 #31

Several people did, & from more than one angle Hekate Dec 2023 #37

Yes, after i made my comment (not claiming my comment spurred those responses) Seeking Serenity Dec 2023 #55

Opioids should not be taken off the market. mwooldri Dec 2023 #33

Hell, no wryter2000 Dec 2023 #42

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