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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Whovian Nov 2012 OP

Gaza doesn't even have a military. No army, navy, air force, or marines. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #1

They do seem to have an awful lot of artillery rockets Fozzledick Nov 2012 #21

How many Israeli civilians have been killed? I haven't heard that on the news. librechik Nov 2012 #59

The only reason that only 3 have been killed so far glacierbay Nov 2012 #62

I wonder how many lives on both sides could have been saved librechik Nov 2012 #71

I wonder how many lives glacierbay Nov 2012 #72

somebody has to stop the escalation--why don't the lovable, smart and kind Israelis do that? librechik Nov 2012 #89

The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades would disagree with you hack89 Nov 2012 #24

Israel has faced opponents with similar strength edhopper Nov 2012 #2

It's clear that Israel doesn't want one either. cali Nov 2012 #3

Compare the death toll. Whovian Nov 2012 #4

That is because Iron Dome has intercepted over 300 rockets. hack89 Nov 2012 #11

The death toll was disproportionate before Iron Dome ever existed LittleBlue Nov 2012 #66

That's the way wars are fought hack89 Nov 2012 #67

so is it your view that all military actions are unfair unless they result in a tie? onenote Nov 2012 #42

That would have worked out real well in WWII. glacierbay Nov 2012 #46

On "Talk Left" on sattelite radio . . . brush Nov 2012 #65

When, in the last four decades has Israel faced an opponent with similar strength? demhottie Nov 2012 #68

1973 Yom Kippur war glacierbay Nov 2012 #70

EXACTLY! 39 years ago demhottie Nov 2012 #73

And if Israel wasn't as strong as they are now glacierbay Nov 2012 #75

I agree. HappyMe Nov 2012 #5

There was, at one time. RC Nov 2012 #6

Israel is making sure that cannot happen. earthside Nov 2012 #12

The future is the continuation of Oppression from Israel. Hutzpa Nov 2012 #17

I think that 2 states HappyMe Nov 2012 #19

I think the time for that as passed. The swiss cheese configuration as you aptly call it makes it Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #85

But you'd never know that listening to M$Greedia malaise Nov 2012 #7

You need to read more. cali Nov 2012 #8

Two states is the only solution ,until this happens it will always resort back to this former-republican Nov 2012 #9

It is becoming more apparent that the political right in Israel Big Blue Marble Nov 2012 #14

The 1967 borders are no longer and option ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #57

It's part of the problem. bluedigger Nov 2012 #10

They barely have the basic necessities of life, let alone military assets. n/t Laurian Nov 2012 #13

Yet they choose to smuggle in thousands of rockets instead of those necessities. nt hack89 Nov 2012 #18

In a civilized world, why should any people have to smuggle in food? Laurian Nov 2012 #30

In a civilized world, why would any people choose weapons over food? nt hack89 Nov 2012 #33

They don't have to smuggle in food. cali Nov 2012 #61

If the Israelis go into the built up part, IEDs and anti-tank missiles may be fairly effective FarCenter Nov 2012 #15

It is not luck. Big Blue Marble Nov 2012 #16

Yet Hamas still decided to launch rocket attacks hack89 Nov 2012 #20

Probably to provoke Israel into retaliating glacierbay Nov 2012 #22

How conveniently you excuse the Israeli violence. N/T Big Blue Marble Nov 2012 #28

How conveniently you seem to excuse Hamas violence glacierbay Nov 2012 #32

I excuse no violence. Not ours, not theirs, not anyones. Big Blue Marble Nov 2012 #39

I'm not excusing the deaths of children on either side glacierbay Nov 2012 #40

What about the ongoing Israeli blockade of Gaza? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #51

Have them renounce their stated goal of the total glacierbay Nov 2012 #54

Maybe losing propoganda war on this site leftynyc Nov 2012 #80

+100000000000 nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #82

IMO Mr Dixon Nov 2012 #86

What would you do in their impossible situation? Big Blue Marble Nov 2012 #27

I would ensure the civilian population was protected before starting a war. hack89 Nov 2012 #29

Why do say the Gazans started this war? Big Blue Marble Nov 2012 #36

You are right - it is not war. Stupidity is more accurate description hack89 Nov 2012 #41

Yes, it's an open air prison. No, the borders aren't sealed. cali Nov 2012 #63

The borders of Gaza are sealed by the Israelis.... EX500rider Nov 2012 #88

I wish they did. I hate watching defenseless people get slaughtered. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #23

Maybe if Hamas quits firing rockets into Israel glacierbay Nov 2012 #25

You totally ignore the history of Israeli occupation, blockade, and oppression. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #52

No, I'm not. glacierbay Nov 2012 #55

Israel has defeated much larger military forces before. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #26

I agree. liberalmuse Nov 2012 #31

Isreal is a bully... 99Forever Nov 2012 #34

And Hamas is a terrorist org. glacierbay Nov 2012 #37

There are NO good guys is this shitfight. 99Forever Nov 2012 #45

I can agree with that. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #47

Agreed Mr Dixon Nov 2012 #87

Not as lucky as the USA. Bonobo Nov 2012 #35

If they did, Israel AF wouldn't be bombing them. Also, Palestine wouldn't be firing bottle rockets. leveymg Nov 2012 #38

You're right. If Hamas had the means to carry out its declared goal of destroying Israel it would onenote Nov 2012 #44

IDF v Hamas virtually defines "asymmetrical warfare." Growing frustration is the main outcome. leveymg Nov 2012 #49

Europe was really lucky the Germans ended up not having the same military strength as the Allies. onenote Nov 2012 #43

Israel can easily overrun Gaza. They just don't want to. They want Hamas in control. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #48

No, they want to ann--- Nov 2012 #78

They don't want to unseat Hamas. The factions waiting in the wings are worse. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #79

They are not doing a very good job then hack89 Nov 2012 #81

that's got to be one of the most inane comments yet. glacierbay Nov 2012 #83

Impossible scenario ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #50

That's an incredibly bigoted comment. About what I'd expect from this poster. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #53

Not at all ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #56

He said Hamas or Islamic based nation. glacierbay Nov 2012 #58

Yep. It's always good when civilized democracies have better weaponry than terrorist thugs. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #60

And this shit is going to go on The Traveler Nov 2012 #64

Palestinians are being used as proxies by Iran and other muslim nations ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #69

actually they are lucky that the Palestinians are the most politically inept leaders ever dsc Nov 2012 #74

Unfortunately 'luck' has nothing to do with it. elleng Nov 2012 #76

How could they ann--- Nov 2012 #77

Wow glacierbay Nov 2012 #84