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65. Absolutely true!

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Wed Dec 6, 2023, 08:52 PM

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'From the river to the sea': Why these 6 words spark fury and passion over the Israel-Hamas war [View all] redqueen Dec 2023 OP

What I don't understand claudette Dec 2023 #1

I think Wikipedia has a reasonably good overview. David__77 Dec 2023 #2

Thank you claudette Dec 2023 #3

At the top of this page, in bold type: Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #47

That does happen on Wikipedia. David__77 Dec 2023 #51

The article omits facts relevant to the issues presented in it, Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #56

I often find reading the "talk" page in Wikipedia of interest. David__77 Dec 2023 #59

Who are you defending? Are you suggesting that it's okay to say it? Or that those who do should not be called-out? Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #8

Welcome to du redqueen Dec 2023 #12

Well, thank you for noticing! It's odd to receive a "welcome to DU" message after six months here. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #17

"Welcome to DU" and "enjoy your stay" often mean the same thing. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #66

Thanks very much. I appreciate your checking-in and sharing your thoughts. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #74

I was told to "enjoy my stay" when I had under 100 posts Polybius Dec 2023 #103

Deflection? TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #37

Because it is referred to as if it really were possible treestar Dec 2023 #77

Yes, like Hamas' stated goal has any chance of happening treestar Dec 2023 #76

Yes, exactly claudette Dec 2023 #80

Its an antisemitic phrase. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #4

There isn't any secret to the antisemitism it is written in 10,000 foot tall letters of fire TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #5

That's right. It does pre-date Hamas. marybourg Dec 2023 #6

The phrase was first used by early Zionists to justify the creation of Greater Israel. TheRickles Dec 2023 #28

Yes it was. Igel Dec 2023 #45

Yet today Palestinians make up 20% of Israeli citizens NickB79 Dec 2023 #50

Not sure of that claudette Dec 2023 #81

Not sure of what, exact? NickB79 Dec 2023 #96

Ok claudette Dec 2023 #97

The full chant: Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #53

Absolutely true! ShazzieB Dec 2023 #65

This Begins To Sound, Ma'am, Like Tucker Carlson Whining He Can't Use 'The N-Word' The Magistrate Dec 2023 #7

Funny how despite the ongoing pandemic of domestic violence, rape, and femicide, redqueen Dec 2023 #10

It's Not Universally Accepted The Earth Is A Globe, Ma'am, Or That Organic Diversity Owes To Evolution The Magistrate Dec 2023 #13

It is interesting how unevenly this 'rule' is applied. redqueen Dec 2023 #18

All Rules Are Applied Unevenly, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2023 #19

How so? nt redqueen Dec 2023 #21

You Are Maintaining, Ma'am, That A Minority Group Reporting It Is Threatened By Another's Speech Should Be Ignored The Magistrate Dec 2023 #26

Ah, but no one is insisting that those who disagree do so politely redqueen Dec 2023 #32

I Find Politeness Adds A Certain Edge, Ma'am, Mere Slanging Can't Achieve The Magistrate Dec 2023 #42

All other things taken into account... Damn, I envy your command of the English language! Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #61

I am not advancing any cultural cause here. redqueen Dec 2023 #75

I Agree With That Aim, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2023 #83

Yet I have not done that. redqueen Dec 2023 #85

In Your Original Comment, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2023 #87

I offered it up as an example of how many on the left are using it. redqueen Dec 2023 #88

As You Wish, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2023 #89

Apologies, I didn't intend that to direct that at you. redqueen Dec 2023 #90

None Necessary, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2023 #93

"Will cause a backlash"? I'm afraid the backlash is already here Hekate Dec 2023 #60

I guess it goes from threats to the actual action TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #99

Sir, you rock Hekate Dec 2023 #58

This chant is absolutely a call to eliminate Israel TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #39

Some here seem to be pretending just that, unfortunately. 😕 ShazzieB Dec 2023 #67

Ah, the "nuance argument." Igel Dec 2023 #57

99% of the time we are told sarisataka Dec 2023 #11

People fine with this probably think the Confederate Flag is just about heritage Sympthsical Dec 2023 #9

I Like That, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #15

And the word The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means "good fortune" or "well-being." Swede Dec 2023 #54

Excellent analogy, this is the exact same bad faith world where defense of that phrase exists. tritsofme Dec 2023 #25

Words meanings can change Johnny2X2X Dec 2023 #14

I am very sure edhopper Dec 2023 #16

I heard it used to express a desire for genocide about 68 years ago. raging moderate Dec 2023 #36

I don't know the answer to eleminated Hamas edhopper Dec 2023 #41

Pretending the phrase means something else is gaslighting. tritsofme Dec 2023 #20

The accusations are just a flying redqueen Dec 2023 #22

Perhaps that is an indication some self reflection is in order? tritsofme Dec 2023 #27

Why do you want to be able to say that phrase so bad? egduj Dec 2023 #29

Why do you think I want to say it? nt redqueen Dec 2023 #33

You're writing a song and it would fit perfectly as a refrain? egduj Dec 2023 #38

You want an end of Jewish rule edhopper Dec 2023 #43

It doesn't matter why you want to say it elias7 Dec 2023 #48

Gosh, here I thought I was the only one..... Butterflylady Dec 2023 #30

Heck no! redqueen Dec 2023 #35

If you and others want to claim a phrase revmclaren Dec 2023 #70

Correct. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #23

I believe the predominant reason for the uproar is that it diverts attention away Uncle Joe Dec 2023 #24

Nonesense, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #31

Perhaps - if so it's a wildly ineffective method. redqueen Dec 2023 #34

I agree, and it is wildly ineffectual but we have grown up with this narrative Uncle Joe Dec 2023 #40

Or maybe it's because she slurred President Biden as a genocide supporter? tritsofme Dec 2023 #44

Rashida is the ONLY Palestinian American in the Congress, and the corporate media in general Uncle Joe Dec 2023 #52

I don't know how that is relevant to her vicious and unjust slur of President Biden as a genocide supporter. tritsofme Dec 2023 #55

Irrelevant, Sir. She Said What She Said. It Was Stupid. The Magistrate Dec 2023 #62

That's an odd deflection. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #68

Are you arguing that because she's the only Palestinian TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #69

Not Quite, Sir, But Close The Magistrate Dec 2023 #71

We start the clock in 1948. Igel Dec 2023 #64

Only tangentially related... AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #79

Would Putin be the same asshole if he wasn't raised on Igel Dec 2023 #100

So which side plans on controlling "from the river to the sea"?? WarGamer Dec 2023 #46

One side already does. AloeVera Dec 2023 #82

I can't wait to hear about he consistent peaceful protests from them...that's something the world would get behind. GuppyGal Dec 2023 #91

Someone needs to tell the Pro-Palestinian protesters using it then NickB79 Dec 2023 #49

It's a trigger phrase for most people. Aussie105 Dec 2023 #63

It's "Heritage, not hate", right? Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #72

This is insane. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #73

Some people really, really want to employ antisemitic sentiments for some reason Sympthsical Dec 2023 #78

This is one of the most depressing threads ever posted on DU. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #84

If it were directed at any other group Zeitghost Dec 2023 #86

There is a double standard when it comes to Jews....that much is abundantly clear. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #92

Has been the case for a 3,000 years or so, it seems to me. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #101

'From the river to the sea' - Students chant but don't know which river or sea LeftInTX Dec 2023 #94

Like white 80's teenagers with Confederate flags on their locker door because Maru Kitteh Dec 2023 #98

Hamas is using this phrase to call for elimination death of all Jews is Israel LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #95

Jesus Christ. ismnotwasm Dec 2023 #102