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66. Rec Exactly.. Jewish People love to be

Reply to OilemFirchen (Reply #29)

Thu Dec 7, 2023, 03:31 PM

Dec 2023

told what isn't "Anti-Semitism"
Senator Fetterman knows it when he sees it..

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Hey! There are WAAAAY too many accustions of anti-semitism here. Is Sen. Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite? [View all] TeamProg Dec 2023 OP

It's not the accusations that are the problem, it's the actual anti-Semitism. tritsofme Dec 2023 #1

Yep. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #3

The accusations ARE the problem since that is where some are defining others, right? Is Sen. Sanders TeamProg Dec 2023 #5

I have never seen anyone here make that accusation of Sanders, you'll have to build another straw man. tritsofme Dec 2023 #7

Do you agree with him on this? "immoral" and "in violation of international law." TeamProg Dec 2023 #19

I don't agree with Sanders on lots of things, including that. tritsofme Dec 2023 #31

It's a LOT easier to accuse everyday people here than it is a liberal U.S. Senator, got it. The members here being TeamProg Dec 2023 #35

Again, he is wrong. But he is not using anti-Semitic tropes or attacks. tritsofme Dec 2023 #37

Neither are many people here who are saying similar things to Sanders Ms. Toad Dec 2023 #63

I haven't seen it. tritsofme Dec 2023 #67

I'm one. Lunabell Dec 2023 #76

Oh I have, Butterflylady Dec 2023 #111

And whatever you do, DON'T use the conjunction "but", or the verb "may" maxrandb Dec 2023 #153

Oh I have..... Butterflylady Dec 2023 #112

I sure have. It is pervasive here. JanMichael Dec 2023 #202

No. I Do Not Agree The Magistrate Dec 2023 #34

No doubt, Hamas committed war crimes, that is not the argument. International law says war crimes are illegal even in a TeamProg Dec 2023 #40

You Can Be Insensitive As You Please, Sir: I've No Feelings To Speak Of The Magistrate Dec 2023 #48

Your views on law are "superior" to established International Law.. oh kay.. TeamProg Dec 2023 #104

I Suggest You Actually Read the Statutes And Conventions, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #107

And far more humble! TeamProg Dec 2023 #158

I agree with what he is saying. "Likud is immoral and against international law". But I disagree that aid should be with SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #172

By giving aid the US is then contributing to the breaking TeamProg Dec 2023 #181

So? SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #185

It lessens our standing and in the end, our own power to negotiate. um, duh. TeamProg Dec 2023 #186

We're not negotiating with Hamas nor any other terrorists. That's up to the proxies. Duh! SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #192

So sorry, I was referring to the BIG picture, the global scale, future negotiations , obviously. TeamProg Dec 2023 #196

It shows the world that Democrats stick by their allies and their friends. Shows that Democrats will help democracies. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #197

Again, that is not looking at the big picture. Democracies (the U.S.) that support, in Sen. Bernie Sanders words, TeamProg Dec 2023 #199

Don't threaten me with a good time. *Please add me to your ignore list* SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #200

Exactly.. "Strawman".. and it's Not working. Cha Dec 2023 #20

Simple criticism isn't antisemitic... Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #57

Hey Happy, Eko Dec 2023 #147

Thanks for the thoughful discourse. Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #154

100%!! Eko Dec 2023 #170

If only more people understood this Hekate Dec 2023 #193

Agreed PBateman70 Dec 2023 #141

TY and they're are NOT "way too many".. We know Anti-Semitism when we Cha Dec 2023 #18

I've seen so many accusations of anti-semitism tossed like grenades at things that were clearly not, all of which Celerity Dec 2023 #55

No one is crying wolf. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #85

you obviously have not looked at the same threads I have, if this is indeed the case: Celerity Dec 2023 #99

You wrote: madaboutharry Dec 2023 #103

Religio/ethnic/racial reductionism (ie ONLY the in-group can ever say what is and what isn't true in regards to Celerity Dec 2023 #120

You are exactly right in your observations. For many, it Nixie Dec 2023 #156

Hell, Ma'am, I've Said About All That Save No. 4 The Magistrate Dec 2023 #121

It's "high dudgeon" mcar Dec 2023 #136

typo sorry, I will sort it Celerity Dec 2023 #137

Not one example there of the actual posts TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #173

Sorry, I will not be lured into breaking DU TOS (targeting posters). As Pete said in the 2020 debates, 'I may not be Celerity Dec 2023 #182

It is breaking the terms to repost your own? TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #187

The point of my examples was the false claims of anti semitism made by others against them, so yes, posting Celerity Dec 2023 #191

I see the opposite. yardwork Dec 2023 #93

the two are not mutually exclusive at all Celerity Dec 2023 #101

Jon Stewart said SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #122

Since Bernie Sanders is Jewish I question he's an anti-Semite KS Toronado Dec 2023 #79

Maybe PBateman70 Dec 2023 #142

Negotiating with TERRORISTS - including in our own country. FUCKING DISGUSTED thru and thru nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #2

Now that's a non-sequitur if I ever saw one. iemanja Dec 2023 #123

The vote was 49-51, with Republicans voting against moving forward with the bill, GuppyGal Dec 2023 #126

Which has NOTHING to do with negotiating with terrorists iemanja Dec 2023 #129

Then I'll keep saying them GuppyGal Dec 2023 #132

There are not 51 Republican Senators to vote on anything. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #165

Honestly this was just some hyperbole against the pukes - no commentary on Sanders...I'm sure if he was GuppyGal Dec 2023 #167

Looks like he was. Otherwise, Harris could break the tie. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #171

Using the phrase "from the river to the sea" is antisemitic. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #4

So you truly believe that Rep Tlaib is an anti-Semite and that she thinks Israel should not exist? Seriously? TeamProg Dec 2023 #9

Actually, I do think Rashida Tlaib does not believe Israel has a right to exist Danmel Dec 2023 #11

Nov 29, 2023 Tlaib statement: TeamProg Dec 2023 #14

Doesn't matter. Marcus IM Dec 2023 #24

Goysplaining done badly. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #29

Great word to add to my vocabulary... Hekate Dec 2023 #52

Rec Exactly.. Jewish People love to be Cha Dec 2023 #66

That is exactly what you are doing to me. Marcus IM Dec 2023 #82

Stay on Topic.. Sen Fetterman Knows Anti-Semitism When hs sees it. Cha Dec 2023 #90

I am responding to you. Is your post on topic? Marcus IM Dec 2023 #95

Cha's post is on topic and is correct LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #148

Those protesters are idiots. This thread is about the commenters here who get labeled as "anti-semetic" TeamProg Dec 2023 #106

I used "Gentile-splaining" the other day AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #70

Except of one very big fact. Marcus IM Dec 2023 #73

I don't believe I was addressing you AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #74

Apologies. I though you were part of the pile-on regarding my supposed "goysplaining". Marcus IM Dec 2023 #81

Fair enough AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #87

I'm actually surprised it's still there. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author Marcus IM Dec 2023 #84

Good for you. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #94

then DON'T use a slogan that clearly refers to the elimination .... -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2023 #26

You might have noticed there is no mention of Israel as a Jewish state Danmel Dec 2023 #27

Religious states are just governments who use their variety of sky fairy to control the populace. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #65

Atheist Jews are still Jews. Israel is not a theocracy TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #150

I did not say it was. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #155

Being Jewish is not just a religion. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #168

It's The Missing Third Paragraph Is The Problem The Magistrate Dec 2023 #46

Her statement shows clear evidence of bias. Mosby Dec 2023 #49

Let's Be Clear, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #56

Hebron is not a very good example Mosby Dec 2023 #78

I Appreciate Your Reply, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #109

I am curious edhopper Dec 2023 #118

Rep. Tlaib is against a two state solution. lapucelle Dec 2023 #133

So she wants 5he same ends edhopper Dec 2023 #143

Echos of "All Lives Matter". CincyDem Dec 2023 #135

Its an antisemitic phrase. Are people who use bigoted slurs and phrases bigots? nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #15

Is it possible that some of the college students who have been participating in demonstrations in support . . . markpkessinger Dec 2023 #169

Just because in their heart of hearts such may not be the intent TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #174

There are even many Jews who disagree that every use of the phrase is necessarily anti-Semitic . . . markpkessinger Dec 2023 #198

Rep. Tlaib wants a one state solution. lapucelle Dec 2023 #47

Rep, Talib advocates for a ONE STATE SOLUTION, which means the eradication of Israel as a nation. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #91

There are two types of one state solutions. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #117

By hook or by crook. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #151

Rep. Tlaib is calling for a one state solution. lapucelle Dec 2023 #138

I do JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #146

I think she does not believe in the Israel's right to exist TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #149

So you're saying that Jews are antisemitic. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #16

It Has Long Been Clear Likud Advocates Unwholesome Ends The Magistrate Dec 2023 #51

Not going to defend Likud, the sooner they are out of power the better. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #96

I suspect, particularly with some of the campus demonstrations . . . markpkessinger Dec 2023 #166

Do you see how Sanders criticized Netanyahu and the government? Sympthsical Dec 2023 #6

I have NOT SEEN ONE post criticizing anyone's choice of religion. EVER. Find one and paste it here. TeamProg Dec 2023 #10

You know I can't do that Sympthsical Dec 2023 #36

Expressing concern for the plight of the Gazans Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #43

But that is not what the poster is claiming Sympthsical Dec 2023 #50

I totally agree that your examples are anti-semitic and need to be called out. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #54

It's coming from regulars no minor amount Sympthsical Dec 2023 #61

Yes Mossfern Dec 2023 #100

this entire thread is meant to divide edisdead Dec 2023 #195

While stranger things have happened TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #177

Perhaps the problem is not too many accusations of antisemitism sarisataka Dec 2023 #8

"But that there are so many antisemites to accuse. " Really? By all means, copy and paste to TeamProg Dec 2023 #12

Ok sarisataka Dec 2023 #17

You know darn well that that this conversation is about posts HERE, at DU. Find those and paste them here. TeamProg Dec 2023 #21

Benie Sanders is not a poster here sarisataka Dec 2023 #25

Maybe poster is implying that the pic was of a DUer? Marcus IM Dec 2023 #30

Is Bernie Sanders a member of DU? sarisataka Dec 2023 #39

You are spoiling for a fight. You "know darn well" that what you are demanding is a violation of the TOS. Hekate Dec 2023 #33

That particular picture was defended by a now PPR'd member as not antisemitic... AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #68

We have lost a lot of long term DUers over this... I don't know what the answer is but hlthe2b Dec 2023 #23

There's nothing forcing anyone to respond to posts like that. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #42

I believe you know it is not that simple nor hardly limited as you suggest. But, I don't wish to argue. hlthe2b Dec 2023 #45

Rec TY.. Yeah, Not that complicated. Cha Dec 2023 #75

Cha... hlthe2b Dec 2023 #89

Cha is one of the kindest, most empathetic DUers yardwork Dec 2023 #102

You are way off base. That is not what i am saying at all. You can ask Cha about our interactions. hlthe2b Dec 2023 #105

Cha is one of my favorite posters and this post is simply wrong LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #108

You are way off base. That is not what i am saying at all. You can ask Cha about our interactions. hlthe2b Dec 2023 #116

Sen Fetterman Calls it "Anti-Semitism" ... Cha Dec 2023 #62

Ive been disgusted by some of the stuff I've seen TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #203

I think you can be anti Netanyahu and anti Hamas without being anti Jewish or Muslim Srkdqltr Dec 2023 #13

Exactly. But there seems to be no room for that very obvious concept. nt TeamProg Dec 2023 #22

Nope. Criticisms of Netanyahu (specifically) have almost stopdiggin Dec 2023 #44

I can say that I alerted a post calling Netanyahu a rat and Likud vermin AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #64

yep. hate speech. and hardly an example of the strawman being foisted ... -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2023 #71

I disagree. I criticize Netanyahu a lot and nobody ever calls that antisemitism. yardwork Dec 2023 #88

See? It's really not that hard mcar Dec 2023 #139

Yes exactly. And who is the head of Hamas? The people here or in other countries are not at fault. Like i said Srkdqltr Dec 2023 #144

This should go well Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #28

Prairie Gate TeamProg Dec 2023 #159

When I tripped over my shoes this morning, it was one clumsy act. Torchlight Dec 2023 #32

I've seen virulent antisemitism (in protests, slogans, speeches, ect.) repeatedly stopdiggin Dec 2023 #38

Just yesterday some were twisting themselves into pretzels defending the JohnSJ Dec 2023 #92

ALL of those Presidents should step down. That was ridiculous. oldsoftie Dec 2023 #179

Thank you for pointing out that which is and has been clearly discernible to me cornball 24 Dec 2023 #41

even ONE accusation of anti-semitism is too many? fishwax Dec 2023 #53

It is an easy go to for one side to use treestar Dec 2023 #58

Agreed....and makes we wonder whether the accusations are to divide us here on DU? Chakaconcarne Dec 2023 #59

I feel the same way angrychair Dec 2023 #60

What Makes The Thing Tricky, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2023 #69

I was talking to a devout Jewish woman yesterday who is totally against the war and hates Netanyahu with a passion kimbutgar Dec 2023 #72

I was appauled when Netanyahu was re-elected. riversedge Dec 2023 #80

Yes, he's giving Israel a bad name. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #115

If you have a chance John Oliver did a great segment explaining the Israel/ Palestine/Hamas situation that kimbutgar Dec 2023 #119

Well, anti-semitism obviously predates the founding of Israel. iemanja Dec 2023 #124

and way, WAY predates Netanyahu stopdiggin Dec 2023 #130

How did she explain the thousands of years TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #188

SILLINESS here and all over. elleng Dec 2023 #83

Yup... You are so right. hlthe2b Dec 2023 #145

And if one expresses their opposition to Israel's policies by vandalizing onenote Dec 2023 #152

'Vandalizing Jewish owned businesses, or sending bomb threats' elleng Dec 2023 #160

Yes they are. And they also are acts of antisemitism onenote Dec 2023 #161

"Anti-Semitism, that is, being against Semitic people" egduj Dec 2023 #162

Utter foolishness, huh? yardwork Dec 2023 #164

Is saying the Balfour Declaration of 1917 was very wrong and led to decades of violence DBoon Dec 2023 #86

A national home for Jewish people is wrong. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #189

When will people learn to seperate individual citizens from Delmette2.0 Dec 2023 #97

That entire area has been a quagmire forever DENVERPOPS Dec 2023 #98

I was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 national convention LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #110

I'm so sorry that happened to you, Cha Dec 2023 #113

That sucks LeftInTX Dec 2023 #114

O M G! Just more proof that there are A-holes in every cross-section of society. Priests, lawyers, teachers, artists, TeamProg Dec 2023 #134

I recall during that time mcar Dec 2023 #140

Yes, I think this gets to the bottom of it, at least Nixie Dec 2023 #157

This was also the convention where there was planned booing stunts of John Lewis and others LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #163

It makes me think about the old saw about sausages: "People who love sausages should never see them made." marble falls Dec 2023 #176

There is no excuse for this happening and what did Nixie Dec 2023 #184

I remember you sharing that harrowing experience with us Hekate Dec 2023 #194

And my list grows longer BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #125

Your ignore list? TeamProg Dec 2023 #127

Lol BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #128

Oh YES! BERNIE is DEFINITELY an 'anti-semite'!!!! DemocraticPatriot Dec 2023 #131

There were multiple threads (one in particular was a shitshow) where many anti Sanders/ anti progressive Celerity Dec 2023 #183

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck Patton French Dec 2023 #175

Or Rich Little. marble falls Dec 2023 #178

I'm with claudette Dec 2023 #180

Adding (both sides) does not cause Hamas to abide by a cease fire TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #190

Of course Tlaib is an antisemite AkFemDem Dec 2023 #201