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In reply to the discussion: Red Cross reprimanded hostage families: 'Think about the Palestinians' [View all]Beastly Boy
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First, you proposed an assumption that IIRC " could get hamas to agree to visits".Following that assumption, you proposed that "they would have to get Israel to halt bombing".
In response, I questioned your doubts that IIRC wouldn't get Israel's agreement to halt the bombings.
You responded with "I seriously believe Israel will not halt the bombing, yes.", then taking a detour into " those same hostages families have loudly criticized Netanyahu specifically for not negotiating another pause for the hostages. So yes, if Netanyahu won't listen to the families, I doubt he is listening to the ICRC." and ending with "I also think hamas will not allow access to the hostages".
Which I then questioned based on available evidence: " Well, your belief is not based on fact. Israel did just that very recently", referring to the recent cease fire. Furthermore, nothing you said shields ICRC from criticism for their repulsive response to the families of the hostages. Likewise, their absence of action on any front regarding the hostages deserves criticism whether they have access to them or not.
You qualified your comment with a belief that you "also think Hamas will not allow access to the hostages". Whether I agree with it or not, that makes the specific instance of hostage families criticizing Netanyahu pointless, since, by your own assessment, they are not directing their criticism where it belongs. And the rest of your comments about Netanyahu not listening to the hostages, or Netanyahu not listening to ICRC, etc., are irrelevant to the subject at hand.
So, notwithstanding your detour into criticizing Netanyahu, you are right: the original story is about ICRC, not him. And I see no reason at all why ICRC should be immune to criticism regarding their tone deaf and one-sided response to the families of the hostages or their apparent silence on the subject of the hostages in general.