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Dulcinea

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13. Minivan owner here.

Sat Dec 16, 2023, 05:33 AM

Dec 2023

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As long as I have kids to move back & forth to college, I'll be a Chrysler minivan owner. It's the only model with Stow & Go, where I can collapse the back seats to make room for lots of stuff. I drive a 2020 Chrysler Pacifica & am happy with it so far. One day I'd like an EV, but here in GA we don't have the infrastructure yet. Plus, we take a lot of road trips. You can always find a gas station, but you can't always find a charging station.

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Why did US car companies abandon the sedan? [View all] Chi67 Dec 2023 OP

I don't want a small car. I like my Subaru. I like having a hatchback. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #1

Ditto. I enjoy my Honda CR-V for the reasons which you state. John1956PA Dec 2023 #3

Likewise here. I had a sedan for a very long time till a few years ago onetexan Dec 2023 #6

I have a 2001 Honda CRV SE Scottie Mom Dec 2023 #18

I'm about 6'3" and don't quite have enough leg room in CRV unc70 Dec 2023 #64

I just made the cutoff. I was 6'2" in my prime. John1956PA Dec 2023 #90

I love my Subaru too. flying_wahini Dec 2023 #54

My household has a Civic, 2 Outbacks, a Buick Regal and a Town & Country. TheBlackAdder Dec 2023 #79

Ditto. Small SUVs are much more practical than sedans. spooky3 Dec 2023 #102

Good question! Rhiannon12866 Dec 2023 #2

That's the case where we are, too. pandr32 Dec 2023 #58

I like mid sized SUV's GoodRaisin Dec 2023 #4

Same reason why station wagons are no longer a thing. Xolodno Dec 2023 #5

I had two different station wagons leftieNanner Dec 2023 #52

In many ways, SUVs are re-engineered station wagons. roamer65 Dec 2023 #82

Yep Zeitghost Dec 2023 #98

I think it all depends on what the dreams were Polybius Dec 2023 #96

One counter-intuitive reason is US fuel economy standards Silent3 Dec 2023 #7

I bought a Toyota Corolla today with an upgrade package and 21 miles on the odometer. NBachers Dec 2023 #8

My Corolla is 17 years old and I hope it lasts forever Diamond_Dog Dec 2023 #45

I got my '70 Corolla for $1998 Submariner Dec 2023 #61

It's as much or more the customers than the sellers... RockRaven Dec 2023 #9

Marketing Old Crank Dec 2023 #10

Love my Corolla! C Moon Dec 2023 #11

There have been ots of small hatchbacks, and there are at least a couple things I prefer about them. pnwmom Dec 2023 #12

Minivan owner here. Dulcinea Dec 2023 #13

We had Chrysler minivans when our kids were young Diamond_Dog Dec 2023 #46

I had a Town & Country previously. Dulcinea Dec 2023 #135

I don't want an SUV LittleGirl Dec 2023 #14

Profit. Trucks have different taxation and safety standards. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #15

Hermit-The-Prog you are 100% correct. Diamond_Dog Dec 2023 #47

Disagree. The idiots drooled over trucks and bought SUVs so Wonder Why Dec 2023 #103

I hauled cars back in 1999 for a company that carried almost exclusivly Ford products. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2023 #107

Ford Taurus was the #1 car TheFarseer Dec 2023 #16

2005 Ford Focus owner here; it's got about 225,000 miles on it. NBachers Dec 2023 #86

I prefer driving a sedan over an SUV. Much better ride Emile Dec 2023 #17

SUVs are a middle ground between minivans and sedans Shermann Dec 2023 #19

I like my SUV for ground clearance TexasBushwhacker Dec 2023 #21

Tesla has done very well with their Model 3 Rstrstx Dec 2023 #20

We have stupid low gas prices Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #22

Yes, not a surprise that lower gas prices are not causing people to buy EV vehicles MichMan Dec 2023 #37

Cheap gas is good right now. Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #126

no its stupid. Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #128

Because a hatch is more practical than a trunk tinrobot Dec 2023 #23

+1 meadowlander Dec 2023 #115

It sounds like sedans just aren't as popular as they used to be, so there is less demand. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #24

My brother loves his 2009 Fusion Freddie Dec 2023 #38

more importantly: Conjuay Dec 2023 #25

You are right. Normally Small equals Crap in American cars. Also, the older I get Liberal In Texas Dec 2023 #26

Few US manufactured vehicles are sold in high numbers outside of North America MichMan Dec 2023 #27

Also given the low fuel taxes here in the US, gas is much cheaper than other countries MichMan Dec 2023 #28

Our Subaru Legacy is great. Before that a Suzuki Kizashi. JanMichael Dec 2023 #29

I love my Honda Civic Mossfern Dec 2023 #30

I absolutely agree about big trucks leaking into my parking space. Diamond_Dog Dec 2023 #48

Exactly! n/t Mossfern Dec 2023 #57

I just swapped my Civic for a Forester dflprincess Dec 2023 #56

My 2017 Civic sits noticeably lower than my previous 5 Honda bullwinkle428 Dec 2023 #76

I have to laugh about the maroon Lincoln town car. NBachers Dec 2023 #89

I love my Honda Civic also! llmart Dec 2023 #132

No more sedans and station wagons ironman99 Dec 2023 #31

The vast majority of crossover SUV that proliferate roads are built on unibody platforms just like cars MichMan Dec 2023 #33

I'm a car nut and love sedans. but I also can't deny the practicality of a SUV. dsp3000 Dec 2023 #32

Just totaled my beloved 2002 V70. musette_sf Dec 2023 #49

While I tend to agree, my last car was a 2002 5 speed ZX5 Focus.... EX500rider Dec 2023 #65

I'll never own a sedan again Niagara Dec 2023 #34

I had a Ford Taurus for many years and it was great. RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #35

I had a Taurus and it was junk RainCaster Dec 2023 #71

Hatchbacks are more flexible and practical than sedans. Emrys Dec 2023 #36

Just took a look. The one that's a surprise is Ford. Renew Deal Dec 2023 #39

The size of Americans has increased. greymattermom Dec 2023 #40

I love my Toyota Highlander Hybrid. My husband loved it so much that he ditched his 11-year-old sedan phylny Dec 2023 #41

I have a Ford Escape hybrid. Goodheart Dec 2023 #44

Because of the light truck exemption, and because SUVs and trucks are cheaper to build . . . hatrack Dec 2023 #42

The fundamental question: WHY have a sedan when you can have a hatchback Goodheart Dec 2023 #43

Since we are all comparing preferences: PCIntern Dec 2023 #50

Sweet Volvo, have always loved those (pic for those that don't know what they are) EX500rider Dec 2023 #66

Here she is: PCIntern Dec 2023 #84

One of my fav cars on Jay Lenos Garage was this P1800: EX500rider Dec 2023 #75

A small SUV like my old Saturn Vue is more practical than a sedan Ocelot II Dec 2023 #51

because they could make SUVs without adhering to the stricter fuel efficiency standards of sedans fishwax Dec 2023 #53

Their inexpensive cars have always been shit. Arthur_Frain Dec 2023 #55

They got better though EX500rider Dec 2023 #68

Why did it take so long? Arthur_Frain Dec 2023 #88

A Pinto or Vega is not even remotely in the same class as a 240Z Sports car MichMan Dec 2023 #73

Not ridiculous, it's what we were given the choice of by Detroit. Arthur_Frain Dec 2023 #85

Capri or Opel GT ? MichMan Dec 2023 #91

Nice random points bro Arthur_Frain Dec 2023 #101

Agree...the 240Z was a pretty awesome sports vehicle back in the 70's. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #87

I miss my '77 Toyota Celica Tom Kitten Dec 2023 #59

if i were able to drive,,, id like to get my hands on a japanese k truck AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #60

Have no interest in an SUV shrike3 Dec 2023 #62

A couple of years ago I bought my first foreign made car dsc Dec 2023 #63

I recall your 3rd paragraph question being asked CanonRay Dec 2023 #67

I fucking HATE SUVs Poiuyt Dec 2023 #69

My vehicle actually sits on a chassis made for a Ford Ranger Niagara Dec 2023 #78

US car companies didn't, US car buyers did. flvegan Dec 2023 #70

Car companies ForgedCrank Dec 2023 #72

Big Caddy NowISeetheLight Dec 2023 #74

Because there is very little profit in sedans. The $9,.000 profits are in SUVs. bucolic_frolic Dec 2023 #77

Compact Crossovers are vastly more popular than sedans YorkRd Dec 2023 #80

My Chevy Cruze is a really well built sedan. roamer65 Dec 2023 #81

I just want to say that the Lexus brand sure stinks....... a kennedy Dec 2023 #83

I have a Honda HRV Jilly_in_VA Dec 2023 #92

What's wrong with the Fit? moondust Dec 2023 #94

The biggest problem with the Fit MurrayDelph Dec 2023 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Dec 2023 #100

It's UGLY Jilly_in_VA Dec 2023 #108

Oh. Okay. moondust Dec 2023 #109

I think they're ugly too, but I'm not their target demographic. spooky3 Dec 2023 #105

I just brought a Hyundai Sonata hybrid sedan and I love it kimbutgar Dec 2023 #93

Because...people didn't want to buy them? brooklynite Dec 2023 #95

I drove a 1985 Escort hatchback until 2017. KentuckyWoman Dec 2023 #97

I honestly don't see how most people over 65 get their ass up and into a truck/suv Captain Zero Dec 2023 #104

You won't find one politician who will ever propose requiring a CDL for drivers of Pickups, Vans and SUV. MichMan Dec 2023 #106

I hate getting into them Freddie Dec 2023 #113

I just purchased a Nissan Rogue and I love it!!! yellowdogintexas Dec 2023 #116

I am 75 one reason I bought a SUV they easier to get in and doc03 Dec 2023 #120

I'm not yet 50 Niagara Dec 2023 #123

Simple DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2023 #110

We just bought a new Camry... WarGamer Dec 2023 #111

I have a Honda Insight (sedan), but I don't need a sedan. Valdosta Dec 2023 #112

I'd buy another VW Golf hatchback, but VW no longer sells them in USA Silent Type Dec 2023 #114

SUVs do everything a sedan can but better RubyRose Dec 2023 #117

People prefer crossovers, pickups and SUVs over sedans Kaleva Dec 2023 #118

They were not profitable. They make $10K each on pickups and doc03 Dec 2023 #119

Because people want them and are willing to pay the asking price MichMan Dec 2023 #129

More profit in big trucks and SUVs TexasBushwhacker Dec 2023 #121

I have no use for an SUV. kskiska Dec 2023 #122

Nissan Versa 2007: It's as sexy as room temperature tofu... IcyPeas Dec 2023 #124

If I am going to drive, I need an SUV. usedtobedemgurl Dec 2023 #125

Love the car you drive? Aussie105 Dec 2023 #127

Because car size became an arms race with the introduction of SUV's and luxury trucks NickB79 Dec 2023 #130

Did you forget how big full size cars were in the late 50's to mid 70's? MichMan Dec 2023 #131

A 72 Oldsmobile had a curb weight of 4700 lb, if Google is to be trusted NickB79 Dec 2023 #134

Because they make more money on pick-ups, and people weren't buying enough sedans ... marble falls Dec 2023 #133