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MyNameIsJonas

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108. Because it's not true, love.

Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:30 AM

Dec 2023

By this point in 1983, Reagan had an approval of 54% and a disapproval of 38%.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/ronald-reagan-public-approval

Reagan's high in disapproval was very brief. He was in the 50s in disapproval for a few weeks in December, 1982 and very early 1983.

People quote that high in disapproval but ignore it came nearly two years before the 1984 election and that, as I mentioned, was very brief. It was there just a few weeks.

The last time Biden scored a disapproval rating lower than 50% was an Emerson poll from September (47%). The last time Biden actually averaged a disapproval rating below 50%? October 5, 2021.

Over two years ago.

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Biden said to be increasingly frustrated by dismal poll numbers [View all] brooklynite Dec 2023 OP

"Perhaps someone should tell him the polls are all fake? Or that worrying about polls a year out is meaningless?" Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #1

We hear it on a daily basis. Multiple times a day, in fact. "Biden is going to lose." shrike3 Dec 2023 #9

Yeah Perhaps! I actually think Pres Biden knows Cha Dec 2023 #73

Aren't these numbers typical of first term presidents? Buckeyeblue Dec 2023 #2

Not the 57% disapproval rate Polybius Dec 2023 #23

Reagan had a job approval of 35 percent. shrike3 Dec 2023 #60

Reagan was re-elected in 1984 ITAL Dec 2023 #64

Oops, you're right shrike3 Dec 2023 #74

It's not approval that is killing Biden. It's disapproval. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #88

I don't think you're worried, dear. shrike3 Dec 2023 #89

RayGun had rating's that were close to Bidens won in landslide uponit7771 Dec 2023 #95

No one wants to hear that. shrike3 Dec 2023 #96

Because it's not true, love. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #108

Reagan at the end of 1983 had a higher approval than he did disapproval. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #105

Yes after 96 save Bush 2 uponit7771 Dec 2023 #93

Even inaccurate indicators can still be useful as indicators Shermann Dec 2023 #3

Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos. . . Emile Dec 2023 #4

What are you saying? brooklynite Dec 2023 #6

slant and tone are everything WhiteTara Dec 2023 #66

Yep Emile Dec 2023 #109

The Washington Post made up a false story? Got it. brooklynite Dec 2023 #111

By "sources who spoke on condition of anonymity." Glad you got it! Emile Dec 2023 #112

The Washington Post is one of the most respected newspapers in American History... brooklynite Dec 2023 #114

Could the source be Jeff Bezos? Emile Dec 2023 #116

Why would you assume that? brooklynite Dec 2023 #117

According to the article, Biden said this: everyonematters Dec 2023 #5

nothing conflicting about this report. WhiteTara Dec 2023 #67

childish. everyonematters Dec 2023 #76

are you dissing me? WhiteTara Dec 2023 #77

I apologies. When I post, I try to make statements that will influence people. everyonematters Dec 2023 #82

influence people HERE? WarGamer Dec 2023 #97

ah. well you influenced me. WhiteTara Dec 2023 #99

I don't have a problem with accepting the reality of polls but Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #7

Do you obsess over them? I don't. brooklynite Dec 2023 #52

I don't but it gets in the general zeitgeist of the public that it's hopeless to support Biden because he has no chance. Elessar Zappa Dec 2023 #70

This is how I see things also. Even good polls right now JI7 Dec 2023 #87

The message is pounded in here daily. "Biden is going to lose." shrike3 Dec 2023 #8

No, the message is: the election is close and Biden has to rebuild his support brooklynite Dec 2023 #12

Are we on the same site? shrike3 Dec 2023 #16

Are there "good news" stories you think aren't getting posted? brooklynite Dec 2023 #57

There are plenty of bad news stories that aren't getting posted. shrike3 Dec 2023 #59

care to share WhiteTara Dec 2023 #68

I wouldn't wait long. shrike3 Dec 2023 #91

I knew who posted it even before I opened the thread. BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #24

Me too! tavernier Dec 2023 #33

Yep. n/t shrike3 Dec 2023 #37

Typical Aepps22 Dec 2023 #40

Don't forget the gleeful, breathless posts predicting a recession BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #47

Define "gleeful" brooklynite Dec 2023 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #63

I don't follow them, the posters in question, that closely. shrike3 Dec 2023 #58

Sometimes I could swear it's 3rdWM's sock puppet. LuvLoogie Dec 2023 #41

lol Rec Cha Dec 2023 #75

Me too. Emile Dec 2023 #94

Call the experts! Need to raise more money for advertising. Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #10

I have faith in Biden that TlalocW Dec 2023 #11

I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but lees1975 Dec 2023 #13

And you're staying Biden isn't perceptive enough to figure out this "conspiracy"? brooklynite Dec 2023 #14

Again, you're asking the wrong question Fiendish Thingy Dec 2023 #18

Take a look at other accurate measurements of voter turnout and preference. lees1975 Dec 2023 #20

"Democrats have overperformed in virtually every election cycle since 2020" Polybius Dec 2023 #25

Polls rso Dec 2023 #65

Yeah, he was supposed to lose in a blowout Polybius Dec 2023 #71

He increased his support among latino and african american voters yes he over performed his polling in 2020 MistakenLamb Dec 2023 #72

Agree FHRRK Dec 2023 #86

The administration has its own internal polls. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #22

Welcome to DU unc70 Dec 2023 #35

Nobody said that, Mr./Ms. Low poster shrike3 Dec 2023 #39

Look at the source of this article. lees1975 Dec 2023 #26

"Public opinion does not shift" TwilightZone Dec 2023 #31

... SAID to be lamp_shade Dec 2023 #15

So, if Biden truly believes current polls indicate he will lose in November Fiendish Thingy Dec 2023 #17

I think Biden thinks that he still has time to change things around Polybius Dec 2023 #27

Nowhere did it say that he thinks they indicate he's going to lose. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #32

No, because there's no way anyone else would be a safer bet than Biden Silent3 Dec 2023 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #21

What if his own polls are telling him he's behind? Polybius Dec 2023 #29

This is a good point. If the story is true, then Biden's own polls/sources must be saying the same thing as supposed Silent Type Dec 2023 #38

That's how I feel. shrike3 Dec 2023 #44

We have you to tell US, at least. shrike3 Dec 2023 #43

They do internal polling though. themaguffin Dec 2023 #28

In my opinion... kentuck Dec 2023 #30

I'm no expert, but wouldn't that be a little late in the game? shrike3 Dec 2023 #46

Yes. A good chunk of the primaries would be over by that point. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #100

Much to your delight, I'm sure. shrike3 Dec 2023 #101

No. I want Joe Biden to be the nominee. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #102

Sure ya do, doll. shrike3 Dec 2023 #103

I do, sweetcheeks. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #104

Before I put you on ignore, I'll give you some advice. shrike3 Dec 2023 #106

Show me where I called Trump vigorous, doll face. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #107

poster appears to be disingenuous about what Pres. Biden thinks bigtree Dec 2023 #34

A right winger I do business with John Shaft Dec 2023 #36

A right-winger said this to you? shrike3 Dec 2023 #48

They mentioned polls John Shaft Dec 2023 #49

What did they say? I'm still not clear. shrike3 Dec 2023 #51

Typical "Dems are in disarray" doomsaying bullshit John Shaft Dec 2023 #54

Polling is getting traction on right-wing sites. shrike3 Dec 2023 #55

Nope. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #42

Again, wanna bet? FHRRK Dec 2023 #45

Your optimism is refreshing, considering what goes on at this site these days. shrike3 Dec 2023 #50

Meh, I actually am not an optimistic person FHRRK Dec 2023 #84

Deja vu all over again. shrike3 Dec 2023 #85

Biden said to be increasingly happy Sneederbunk Dec 2023 #56

I think Biden's more CURRENT statement... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #61

I'm Sure RobinA Dec 2023 #62

This is pot stirring by the "paper that Jeff bought." SalamanderSleeps Dec 2023 #69

Highest Dow ever! Charging Triceratops Dec 2023 #78

During the Bush Administration, high DOW numbers were denigrated here..... brooklynite Dec 2023 #79

. . . . Emile Dec 2023 #80

the Dow during that time was artificially propped up bigtree Dec 2023 #81

That was a bubble economy like the '80s. Obama and now Biden economies -- not bubble economies. betsuni Dec 2023 #83

The rest of America didn't think so. shrike3 Dec 2023 #90

"said to be" uponit7771 Dec 2023 #92

By "sources who spoke on condition of anonymity." Emile Dec 2023 #98

So you posted this to prove that treestar Dec 2023 #110

Gee, I thought I posted it because it was a topical news story... brooklynite Dec 2023 #115

"Perhaps someone should tell him the polls are all fake? Or that worrying about polls a year out is meaningless?" treestar Dec 2023 #120

He should start putting a little fear in the people of what a fascist dictatorship would be like. Hotler Dec 2023 #113

The media is having a field day with the "polls." I'd love to know the true demographics of those Vinca Dec 2023 #119