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David__77

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30. I am not the person claiming there is such a universal protocol to shoot the mobile in three seconds.

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Sun Dec 24, 2023, 12:36 PM

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A Disabled Palestinian Was Carrying a Bag of Lollipops When He Was Shot by Israeli Troops [View all] David__77 Dec 2023 OP

clear at the end .. stopdiggin Dec 2023 #1

No empathy at all. No compassion. Lunabell Dec 2023 #2

Actually, that poster did show empathy. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #33

Another "but, what about her emails?" post. Lunabell Dec 2023 #45

Another deflection reply. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #49

The deflection started with your post. Lunabell Dec 2023 #52

What game, then, are you playing? OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #56

I read none. Lunabell Dec 2023 #57

Hard to decipher that. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #59

I didn't justify anything. The region is on a hair-trigger and the man didn't comply with commands in a deadly situation SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #146

He is developmentally disabled. Lunabell Dec 2023 #149

What way? I'm glad they didn't kill him. Not happy he was severely injured for certain. Hamas has fucked up the area. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #152

I have worked with developmentally disabled. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #153

Rec Mahalo for some Really 🕯️🕊️💙 Cha Dec 2023 #105

Thanks Cha. OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #120

You're So Welcome.. and a Very Cha Dec 2023 #125

From what we've seen through this Bettie Dec 2023 #143

Huh? OilemFirchen Dec 2023 #151

no it's not...this is war... agingdem Dec 2023 #114

I don't think the many babies who have been killed were cheering. David__77 Dec 2023 #127

but their mothers and fathers did... agingdem Dec 2023 #133

Yikes. David__77 Dec 2023 #3

It's really sad. Lunabell Dec 2023 #6

What the hell does this incident have to do with Democrats? Johnny2X2X Dec 2023 #13

Not the shooting. Lunabell Dec 2023 #15

And what the hell does that have to do with the Democratic Party? Johnny2X2X Dec 2023 #36

Wow, angry much? Lunabell Dec 2023 #44

Because this is DU. Basic LA Dec 2023 #122

Sometimes an underdog doesn't deserve support Sympthsical Dec 2023 #135

Hamas is the cause of all of this fucking shit. Shit stirring terrorists and Hamas lovers love dead Palestinian children SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #147

I clearly have empathy for this individual stopdiggin Dec 2023 #63

There has to be at least one or two Israel bashing threads daily Arazi Dec 2023 #69

my point. stopdiggin Dec 2023 #71

And thank goodness therre are those brave enough to take on this duty. NoRethugFriends Dec 2023 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author JohnSJ Dec 2023 #124

I think the author provided pretty good context. David__77 Dec 2023 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Sal_NV Dec 2023 #138

Always posted by the same 3 or 4 posters. Mountainguy Dec 2023 #150

I have worked with developmentally disabled people. Lunabell Dec 2023 #78

and developmentally disadvantaged people stopdiggin Dec 2023 #85

Blunder his way? Lunabell Dec 2023 #87

disadvantaged individuals stopdiggin Dec 2023 #90

Yes. Lunabell Dec 2023 #94

Plain evil malaise Dec 2023 #4

Yes. Lunabell Dec 2023 #5

It is the same approach that led Israel's army to kill three shirtless Israelis with a white flag. David__77 Dec 2023 #7

Or a sniper shooting at innocent women and children in a church. Lunabell Dec 2023 #8

You post this even though a simple trip to Google will reveal emphatic denials by the IDF madaboutharry Dec 2023 #32

So, the pope's a liar now? Lunabell Dec 2023 #46

I did not say the Pope is a liar. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #50

And so, we just believe them? Lunabell Dec 2023 #51

but you are obviously buying into stopdiggin Dec 2023 #68

You think the IDF is just going to admit to murder? Lunabell Dec 2023 #72

Did the IDF admit to shooting the three hostages? EX500rider Dec 2023 #156

More like fear during wartime elias7 Dec 2023 #9

Derek Chauvin-type fear David__77 Dec 2023 #10

See my update. Respectfully, I thoroughly disagree. elias7 Dec 2023 #11

This is a "but, what about her emails?" post. Lunabell Dec 2023 #16

Well, Malaise, it is not so bad, he was a Palestinian, not a real person. Chainfire Dec 2023 #55

Nobody on DU believes that Arazi Dec 2023 #70

Really, Sal_NV Dec 2023 #139

Yes, unless I was a suicide bomber and strapped explosives Nixie Dec 2023 #17

Why do people here reflexively defend EVERYTHING the IDF does? Oneironaut Dec 2023 #35

And believing the IDF is like Lunabell Dec 2023 #54

I ask myself this question everyday I come to DU. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #64

Why do people here reflexively blame EVERYTHING on IDF, Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #100

You know the answer, we just can't say it... AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #102

For the very same reason I suppose. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #116

"The IDF are the good guys and Hamas are the bad guys!" Jedi Guy Dec 2023 #103

Yes I agree. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #117

The real question is if he were a disabled black man in the US shot by the police, Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #62

Here's the full video Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #12

Recriminations with no ground ceded once more info presents, like the Al-Ahli hospital bombing elias7 Dec 2023 #14

One can be anti-hamas and their atrocities, Lunabell Dec 2023 #18

Can one be anti-Hamas and repeat their propaganda? AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #61

What propaganda is that? Lunabell Dec 2023 #73

Pretty much every news report from Gaza AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #74

Who says I do? Lunabell Dec 2023 #76

You certainly seem to defending this propaganda AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #77

What propaganda am I defending? Lunabell Dec 2023 #79

You could answer my questions first AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #83

I told you, I don't do "whataboutisms" Lunabell Dec 2023 #84

You don't do what aboutisms, but #48 is an entire deflection to Kyle Rittenhouse Arazi Dec 2023 #99

Oh, you so mad. Lunabell Dec 2023 #104

Not mad. Just pointing out hypocrisy when I see it Arazi Dec 2023 #107

I don't agree that the shooting was "the right thing to do". David__77 Dec 2023 #19

The challenge still stands: find me just one law enfircement manual Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #20

See this. David__77 Dec 2023 #21

Have you read it? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #25

Ah, the "Shoot-them-in-three-seconds-if-they-don't-remain-still" rule. David__77 Dec 2023 #26

In the absence of a straight answer, deflect into snark. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #29

I am not the person claiming there is such a universal protocol to shoot the mobile in three seconds. David__77 Dec 2023 #30

Yo are the person who is posting irrelevant information Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #34

And I guess Kyle Rittenhouse really was in fear for his life. Lunabell Dec 2023 #48

WTF does this ridiculous deflection have to do with this thread? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #91

Yup. It's AlWAYS (((their))) fault. Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #89

+1 BuddhaGirl Dec 2023 #31

Me too. Lunabell Dec 2023 #98

And there it is... AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #108

And where is that? Lunabell Dec 2023 #111

I'm not repeating it - you said it nt AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #112

Said what? Lunabell Dec 2023 #115

Consistently disregarding Hamas' crucial role in the suffering of civilians is not compassion. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #106

You obviously haven't read all of my posts. Lunabell Dec 2023 #113

It was not my intention to hold a mirror to anyone's face. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #119

*sigh* BuddhaGirl Dec 2023 #132

If that is the case, it is not being reflected in their posts, Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #134

Let me chime in here, Sal_NV Dec 2023 #137

Didn't know this, but it makes perfect sense. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #142

I should clarify this, Sal_NV Dec 2023 #144

That would give you a hell of a lot more insight than I or the other poster have. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #145

You think this article shows Israel in a bad light? David__77 Dec 2023 #162

It certainly doesn't show that they acted unreasonably given the situation in a time of hightened alert. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #163

Understood. David__77 Dec 2023 #164

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to you and your family. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #165

Thank you. Merry Christmas. David__77 Dec 2023 #166

There was nothing clearly disabled about that man. Nixie Dec 2023 #22

No offense, but, you need to learn more about mental disabilities. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #37

Thank you your self disclosures here and I hope you Nixie Dec 2023 #41

. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #42

. Nixie Dec 2023 #67

Exactly!!! Lunabell Dec 2023 #86

"Hang wringing"? Wow David__77 Dec 2023 #101

Well, "lying their asses off" would be a bit of an overreaction. So yeah. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #109

The video shows the shooting quite clearly. David__77 Dec 2023 #121

"Hand wringing" was obviously referring to the commentaries, which were Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #131

Thank you. Exactly. I could have said propaganda or lies, Nixie Dec 2023 #154

Palestinians are using suicide bombers against the IDF Arazi Dec 2023 #23

Should they use the same shooting protocols on children too? David__77 Dec 2023 #24

Are the children suicide bombers, then yes EX500rider Dec 2023 #39

The man who was shot was not a suicide bomber. David__77 Dec 2023 #123

I didn't say he was EX500rider Dec 2023 #136

Children have been used as suicide bombers too Arazi Dec 2023 #47

Is it really your contention that a less lethal means would not have been moniss Dec 2023 #58

because it's a war? and a checkpoint with military troops rather than 'Officer Friendly'? -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2023 #60

Hebron is in the West Bank and is not moniss Dec 2023 #88

stand corrected. 'high alert' would probably be terminology than war stopdiggin Dec 2023 #93

His wound is preventing thousands of future wounds (and deaths)... gulliver Dec 2023 #27

I don't think this shooting saved one life or prevented one wound. David__77 Dec 2023 #28

Thanks for replying gulliver Dec 2023 #38

Yeah, I posted something similar last week: EX500rider Dec 2023 #40

Those are good points, and I agree gulliver Dec 2023 #43

Ah yes regime change has worked so well. Voltaire2 Dec 2023 #66

This is how the IDF soldiers behave toward all Palestinians in the West Bank every day. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #53

so the checkpoints serve no purpose ? stopdiggin Dec 2023 #65

Check points do serve a purpose and moniss Dec 2023 #92

not making a case for checkpoints be 'pleasant' encounters stopdiggin Dec 2023 #96

They allow for opportunity to shoot people, for one thing. David__77 Dec 2023 #95

glad we cleared that up. -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2023 #97

That sounds claudette Dec 2023 #82

BS. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #140

Your post is a clear example of how propaganda works to block critical thinking. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #148

I don't think David Ignatius of the Washington Post lies. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #155

Nowhere in the Washington Post article madaboutharry Dec 2023 #157

See what you're making us do? Iggo Dec 2023 #75

I support Israel in general, but I sure as hell don't support this Silent3 Dec 2023 #110

🥲 claudette Dec 2023 #81

Hamas has been hiding explosives in toy boxes, inside kindergartens NickB79 Dec 2023 #118

I don't think toy boxes made them shoot this man. David__77 Dec 2023 #126

If you have to worry about toy boxes holding explosives NickB79 Dec 2023 #129

I don't think the shooting is justified by such worry. David__77 Dec 2023 #130

What you think matters not one whit. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #141

Ah, so this is about experiential perception and not observable evidence? David__77 Dec 2023 #159

Suppose this man had been a suicide bomber? Sal_NV Dec 2023 #160

The valuation of lives is expressed in selected tactics. David__77 Dec 2023 #161

Lotta bootlicking in this thread, whew WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #158